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Re: WG Review: Stay Home Meet Only Online (shmoo)

Joseph Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Thu, 16 July 2020 15:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: WG Review: Stay Home Meet Only Online (shmoo)
From: Joseph Touch <touch@strayalpha.com>
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:17:55 -0700
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> On Jul 16, 2020, at 7:40 AM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Area Directors are not nearly as exalted as this sounds. Like the rest of Nomcom-reviewed position holders, Area Directors *serve the community*. If we did an accurate org chart, the IESG (made up of ADs) would be toward the BOTTOM of the "IETF hierarchy", and individual participants like you would be at the top.

I wish this were true, but my experience is that they tend to think they serve as the IETF’s RFC “editorial board”, sometimes holding up documents on issues that have received both WG and IETF LC consensus. If their input had the rank you describe, it would not have that effect on our document stream.

It would be nice if everyone were more aware of the fact that those who serve are picked from among those whose employers support, who (claim to) have a large percent of their time available to the IETF, etc. That’s the “best of the best of the best” *of who is able and willing to volunteer*.

Joe

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