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Re: Appeal against IESG blocking DISCUSS on draft-klensin-rfc2821bis

Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Tue, 24 June 2008 09:41 UTC

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:41:34 +0200
From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
To: Bernard Aboba <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com>, ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Appeal against IESG blocking DISCUSS on draft-klensin-rfc2821bis
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--On Monday, June 23, 2008 07:41:27 PM -0700 Bernard Aboba 
<bernard_aboba@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Russ Housley said:
>
> "I agree with this principle. In fact, I think that the IESG has taken
> many steps over the last four or more years to reduce the
> nearly-end-of-process surprises. Obviously, you do not think these
> measures have been sufficient. One lesson from the many attempts to make
> updates to RFC 2026 is that such policy documents needs to set
> expectations without taking away flexibility and judgement. "
>
> Can you elaborate on what steps the IESG has taken to reduce the
> "nearly-end-of-process surprises" and why effect this has had, if any?
> For example, have the delays resulting from IESG reviews actually
> *decreased* as a result?
>
> The research by Prof. Simcoe of the Rotman School is not encouraging:
> http://www.rotman.utoronto.ca/strategy/research/working%20papers/Simcoe%2
> 0-%20Delays.pdf

The Simcoe dataset ends in approximately 2001.

This was 2 years before the I-D tracker got implemented. 'Nuff said.

                  Harald

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