Re: [Inip-discuss] Domain Names
Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Sun, 10 January 2016 23:25 UTC
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On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 03:43:19PM -0500, Avri Doria wrote: > > Is this a definition specific to the IN class domain name space? That's an excellent question. Sitting parked on my wet-drive (the thing in between my ears before it comes out my fingers) is an I-D entitled, "DNS CLASS Considered Useless" If you read carefully the way CLASS is described, it turns out to assume that the name tree is parallel. If that is true, then some things follow: 1. All names must subsist in all classes. 2. No name with a cross-class type can result in different resolution across classes. If those are both true, then classes simply don't work, because of [CD]NAME. And if you think about the way the DNS is defined, this is not surprising. DNS is defined as a name space subordinate to which is the type and class. If classes worked, then the namespace would need to be subordinate to class: you'd look up a name under a class with a specific type. But that's not how it is defined. If you look at the very earliest namedroppers archives, actually, it seems that this was very much the concern some commenters on DNS were asking, though they didn't put it quite this starkly. I think that may be because they didn't yet have the experience with DNS that we now do. But I think those earliest questions were right on, and I think that the complete failure of classes to take off is a pretty good indication they were right. I swore I'd submit that I-D before the end of 2015, but it's not even been typed out yet. I am still keen to make it happen. I think we should close the CLASS registry and admit that it's the appendix of the DNS. A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
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