Re: [Inventory-yang] Nimby WG chartering

Looks great to me!

cheers
daniele

Il Mar 18 Apr 2023, 18:26 Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com> ha
scritto:

> Hi all,
>
> Perhaps rather than:
>
> " Details of how the inventory content is used is outside the scope of
> the Working Group."
>
> We could have:
>
> "Work specifying the use of inventory content is outside the scope of the
> Working Group,
> but informative examples describing how the inventory data may be used is
> within scope".
>
> Would this be sufficient (alongside deleting the paragraph on
> capabilities) to submit this version of the charter for IESG review?
>
> Ideally, I would like to get this onto next week's telechat (which means
> pushing the button on/before Thursday this week), so if we able to close on
> this today/tomorrow then that would be really appreciated (and I appreciate
> that I've also been slow here).
>
> Regards,
> Rob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Inventory-yang <inventory-yang-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of
> mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
> Sent: 14 April 2023 06:08
> To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>; Daniele Ceccarelli <
> daniele.ietf@gmail.com>
> Cc: inventory-yang@ietf.org; JACQUENET Christian INNOV/NET <
> christian.jacquenet@orange.com>
> Subject: Re: [Inventory-yang] Nimby WG chartering
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> > Do we ever tell operators what they have do? No.
> > Should we say things like, "this enables an operator who wants to map
> > their L1 circuits to L0 segments"? Yes.
>
> This falls under means to ease correlation and zoom in/out. This is
> covered by the proposed charter.
>
> This is distinct from the initial part you commented on about the use of
> the inventory content. I don't think we have to dive into how (1) an
> authoritative inventory is bootstrapped/maintained, (2) how the same data
> model is used to structure data that is actually discovered from the
> network/infrastructure, (3) how this is exposed to applications such as
> planning, emulation tools, etc.
>
> BTW, I suggest that we make this change:
>
> NEW:
>  Details of how the inventory content is fed and used are outside the
> scope of
>
>  ^^^^^^
>  the Working Group.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Cheers,
> Med
>
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Inventory-yang <inventory-yang-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de
> > Michael Richardson
> > Envoyé : jeudi 13 avril 2023 18:50
> > À : Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ietf@gmail.com>
> > Cc : inventory-yang@ietf.org
> > Objet : Re: [Inventory-yang] Nimby WG chartering
> >
> >
> > Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> >     > LMO is Lifecycle Management and Operations. (
> >     > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-palmero-opsawg-dmlmo/)
> >
> >     > Layer 0 is the layer at which optical devices operate.
> >
> > I see.  So layer 1 is that I have a 100G fiber from Chicago-DC1 to
> LA-DC8.
> > Layer 0 is that there are five segments between DC1 and DC8 via four
> > optical switches in St.Louis, Denver, Reno, SFO and LA.
> >
> >     > Can you elaborate a bit? Providing example won't be banned,
> > telling
> >     > operators how they have to populate their inventories won't make
> > them
> >     > very happy.
> >
> > Do we ever tell operators what they have do? No.
> > Should we say things like, "this enables an operator who wants to map
> > their L1 circuits to L0 segments"? Yes.
> >
> > --
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> > ]   Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works        |    IoT
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>
>
>
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