Re: [Inventory-yang] Nimby WG chartering

[Qin Wu <[e-mail]>]

The proposed change looks good to me, thanks!

-Qin
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发件人: Inventory-yang [mailto:[e-mail]] 代表 Rob Wilton (rwilton)
发送时间: 2023年4月18日 18:26
收件人: [e-mail]; Michael Richardson <[e-mail]>; Daniele Ceccarelli <[e-mail]>
抄送: [e-mail]; JACQUENET Christian INNOV/NET <[e-mail]>
主题: Re: [Inventory-yang] Nimby WG chartering

Hi all,

Perhaps rather than:

" Details of how the inventory content is used is outside the scope of the Working Group."

We could have:

"Work specifying the use of inventory content is outside the scope of the Working Group, but informative examples describing how the inventory data may be used is within scope".

Would this be sufficient (alongside deleting the paragraph on capabilities) to submit this version of the charter for IESG review?

Ideally, I would like to get this onto next week's telechat (which means pushing the button on/before Thursday this week), so if we able to close on this today/tomorrow then that would be really appreciated (and I appreciate that I've also been slow here).

Regards,
Rob


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From: Inventory-yang <[e-mail]> On Behalf Of [e-mail]
Sent: 14 April 2023 06:08
To: Michael Richardson <[e-mail]>; Daniele Ceccarelli <[e-mail]>
Cc: [e-mail]; JACQUENET Christian INNOV/NET <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [Inventory-yang] Nimby WG chartering

Hi Michael, 

> Do we ever tell operators what they have do? No.
> Should we say things like, "this enables an operator who wants to map 
> their L1 circuits to L0 segments"? Yes.

This falls under means to ease correlation and zoom in/out. This is covered by the proposed charter. 

This is distinct from the initial part you commented on about the use of the inventory content. I don't think we have to dive into how (1) an authoritative inventory is bootstrapped/maintained, (2) how the same data model is used to structure data that is actually discovered from the network/infrastructure, (3) how this is exposed to applications such as planning, emulation tools, etc. 

BTW, I suggest that we make this change: 

NEW:
 Details of how the inventory content is fed and used are outside the scope of
                                                                       ^^^^^^  the Working Group.

Thanks.

Cheers,
Med

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> De : Inventory-yang <[e-mail]> De la part de 
> Michael Richardson Envoyé : jeudi 13 avril 2023 18:50 À : Daniele 
> Ceccarelli <[e-mail]> Cc : [e-mail] Objet 
> : Re: [Inventory-yang] Nimby WG chartering
> 
> 
> Daniele Ceccarelli <[e-mail]> wrote:
>     > LMO is Lifecycle Management and Operations. (
>     > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-palmero-opsawg-dmlmo/)
> 
>     > Layer 0 is the layer at which optical devices operate.
> 
> I see.  So layer 1 is that I have a 100G fiber from Chicago-DC1 to LA-DC8.
> Layer 0 is that there are five segments between DC1 and DC8 via four 
> optical switches in St.Louis, Denver, Reno, SFO and LA.
> 
>     > Can you elaborate a bit? Providing example won't be banned, 
> telling
>     > operators how they have to populate their inventories won't make 
> them
>     > very happy.
> 
> Do we ever tell operators what they have do? No.
> Should we say things like, "this enables an operator who wants to map 
> their L1 circuits to L0 segments"? Yes.
> 
> --
> ]               Never tell me the odds!                 | ipv6 mesh networks [
> ]   Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works        |    IoT architect
> [
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