Re: [Inventory-yang] Nimby WG chartering

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Subject: Re: [Inventory-yang] Nimby WG chartering
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Hi Michael, 

> Do we ever tell operators what they have do? No.
> Should we say things like, "this enables an operator who wants to map
> their L1 circuits to L0 segments"? Yes.

This falls under means to ease correlation and zoom in/out. This is covered by the proposed charter. 

This is distinct from the initial part you commented on about the use of the inventory content. I don't think we have to dive into how (1) an authoritative inventory is bootstrapped/maintained, (2) how the same data model is used to structure data that is actually discovered from the network/infrastructure, (3) how this is exposed to applications such as planning, emulation tools, etc. 

BTW, I suggest that we make this change: 

NEW:
 Details of how the inventory content is fed and used are outside the scope of
                                                                       ^^^^^^
 the Working Group.

Thanks.

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Inventory-yang <inventory-yang-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de
> Michael Richardson
> Envoyé : jeudi 13 avril 2023 18:50
> À : Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ietf@gmail.com>
> Cc : inventory-yang@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [Inventory-yang] Nimby WG chartering
> 
> 
> Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>     > LMO is Lifecycle Management and Operations. (
>     > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-palmero-opsawg-dmlmo/)
> 
>     > Layer 0 is the layer at which optical devices operate.
> 
> I see.  So layer 1 is that I have a 100G fiber from Chicago-DC1 to LA-DC8.
> Layer 0 is that there are five segments between DC1 and DC8 via four
> optical switches in St.Louis, Denver, Reno, SFO and LA.
> 
>     > Can you elaborate a bit? Providing example won't be banned,
> telling
>     > operators how they have to populate their inventories won't make
> them
>     > very happy.
> 
> Do we ever tell operators what they have do? No.
> Should we say things like, "this enables an operator who wants to map
> their L1 circuits to L0 segments"? Yes.
> 
> --
> ]               Never tell me the odds!                 | ipv6 mesh networks [
> ]   Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works        |    IoT architect
> [
> ]     mcr@sandelman.ca  http://www.sandelman.ca/        |   ruby on rails
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