Re: IPv6 Routing & ND vs. Addressing, (Was: Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt>)

Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org> Sat, 15 July 2017 21:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: IPv6 Routing & ND vs. Addressing, (Was: Re: <draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis-09.txt>)
From: Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org>
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:43:15 +0200
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Nick,

This a protocol problem. DAD is built with the assumption that physical links are reliable. 20% packet loss for multicast is common on wifi...

Cheers 
Ole

> On 15 Jul 2017, at 23:34, Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> wrote:
> 
> Ole Troan wrote:
>> DAD is not robust. Last time I tried on the IETF wireless network 1
>> time in 4 DAD failed to detect a duplicate.
> 
> was this an implementation problem or a protocol problem?
> 
> Nick