Re: [IPv6] URL solution for identifying scopes ? Re: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui-00.txt
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Tue, 20 February 2024 19:48 UTC
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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
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Subject: Re: [IPv6] URL solution for identifying scopes ? Re: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui-00.txt
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Thanks a lot, Soni Seems like i may want to ask the question about the uri idea on art. >From the little i try to understand, the "auth" URI as long as it applies to the indicated destination URI does not have such a strong argument as i think the "route:" URI i was suggesting, because the auth information is logically part of the destination URI and probably origin concept, whereas the "route:" part is not - because it would only describe logically destination independent network parameters to use for the connection. Like i think we have a bunch of protocol URN to parameterize other protocols... Cheers Toerless On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 11:42:55AM -0300, Soni "They/Them" L. wrote: > > > On 2024-02-20 11:34, Toerless Eckert wrote: > > Btw: nobody commented on my question whether a different form of encoding for the scope of an LLA > > than rfc6874 would solve the URL problems of rfc6874. And not having seen any such discussions > > in prior rounds was at the core of my concern of the process that previously happened. > > > > On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 04:43:40AM +0100, Toerless Eckert wrote: > > > For example, would something like a new URL schema be better ? > > > > route:en0:http://... > > > > ? > > > > I mean we have enough cases where one URL encodes another URL as a > > parameter, > > > it can't be that difficult to explain the most simple desirable way to do this > > > for the link selection problem. > > > > Aka: prepend a new type of URI specifying local connection parameters (such as zone) > > before the target destination ("origin") URL. This new type of URI would only be handled > > locally by the application (browser, ...) and never be sent across the network. > > > > If this makes sense, it could be defined extensible to include other local socket parameters > > that might make sense to be able to indicate explicitly. DSCP, SRH path comes to mind. > > > > With appropriate routing setup on multi-homed hosts, this would also make the zone > > identifier easily useable with any type of host (address or DNS name) in the following URL. > > this looks vaguely familiar... > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/art/CK4VsoVw2Mi9QR_GncEhnVXbz0E/ > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/art/?q=composable > > > Cheers > > Toerless > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > > ipv6@ietf.org > > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- --- tte@cs.fau.de
- [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Eduard Metz
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… David Schinazi
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Nick Buraglio
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-… Bob Hinden
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Michael Richardson
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Michael Richardson
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… David Schinazi
- Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-… Ole Troan
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… David Schinazi
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… David Schinazi
- Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-… Bob Hinden
- Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-… Michael Sweet
- Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Karstens, Nate
- Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-… Bob Hinden
- Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-… David Schinazi
- Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Karstens, Nate
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… David Schinazi
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… David Schinazi
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [IPv6] URL solution for identifying scopes ? … Soni "They/Them" L.
- [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [IPv6] URL solution for identifying scopes ? … Toerless Eckert
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Michael Richardson
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPv6] URL solution for identifying scopes ? … Toerless Eckert
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Michael Richardson
- Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-… David Schinazi
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Toerless Eckert
- [IPv6] URL solution for identifying scopes ? Re: … Toerless Eckert
- Re: [IPv6] URL solution for identifying scopes ? … Toerless Eckert
- [IPv6] zone oops interface selection should not o… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [IPv6] zone oops interface selection should n… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPv6] zone oops interface selection should n… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPv6] URL solution for identifying scopes ? … Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Karstens, Nate
- Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-… Michael Sweet
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-… Bob Hinden
- Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… David Schinazi
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [IPv6] URL solution for identifying scopes ? … Eric Rescorla
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… Michael Sweet
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… David Schinazi
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… David Schinazi
- Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-zone-… Michael Sweet
- Re: [IPv6] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [IPv6] zone oops interface selection should n… David Schinazi
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… Michael Richardson
- Re: [IPv6] Not about I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… Michael Sweet