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RE: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA)

Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net> Tue, 12 May 2020 14:45 UTC

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From: Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>
To: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
CC: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>, 6man <6man@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA)
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Robert,

I realize that you are joking, but it might actually be a good idea for SRv6 to move onto another protocol number. This would solve the following problems:


  *   SRv6 could do whatever it wanted, without regard for RFC 4291,  RFC 8200, or anything else that 6man produces
  *   6man could evolve IPv6 as it sees fit, without having to consider the sensitivities of SRv6

It would only mean changing the first four bits of every SRv6 packet. That would probably take much less time than converging the SRv6 and IPv6 architectures.

                                                         Ron




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From: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
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To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Cc: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>; Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>; 6man <6man@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA)

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I'm not sure this is feasible without changing the IP version number.

How about IPv6+ ?

Thx,
R.

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