Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA
Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> Mon, 11 May 2020 22:11 UTC
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From: Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 08:10:44 +1000
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Subject: Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA
To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" <pcamaril=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>, "6man@ietf.org" <6man@ietf.org>
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On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 03:13, Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) <pcamaril=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > Gyan, > > > > SRH insertion is NOT part of draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-15. > Removal is, and it is just as much of a hack as EH insertion is. > (SRH insertion is documented in draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-net-pgm-insertion-02 with a normative reference to draft-voyer-6man-extension-header-insertion-08). > > > > > Spring - Please provide section within PGM that has the verbiage of the 6in6 encapsulation > > > > This is already in the net-pgm draft (since rev 00). Please see https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-15#section-5 . > > > > Thanks, > > Pablo. > > > > From: ipv6 <ipv6-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Gyan Mishra > Sent: lunes, 11 de mayo de 2020 18:02 > To: Krzysztof Szarkowicz <kszarkowicz@gmail.com> > Cc: Ron Bonica <rbonica=40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org>; 6man <6man@ietf.org> > Subject: Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA > > > > > > Krzysztof > > > > So you agree with what I stated as the workaround. > > > > Please read through exactly what I stated as the complete workaround. > > > > If we are all in agreement with the prepend (6in6) encap) workaround can we have the PGM draft updated to reflect. > > > > All > > > > With regards to the 6MAN appeal, the issues were PSP and this issue with TI-LFA from what I recall. > > > > Was their any other issue outside of these two mentioned in the appeal that we need to address and come up with a workaround? > > > > Thank you > > > > Gyan > > > > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:09 AM Krzysztof Szarkowicz <kszarkowicz@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Robert, > > If we have prepend, why bother with insertion at all? Prepend (6in6 encap) is much cleaner, IMHO. > > Regards, > Krzysztof > > > On 2020 -May-11, at 16:38, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote: > > > > Hi Ron, > > > > > normalizing header insertion for the special case where the PLR is a segment endpoint > > > > When an operator is serious about good data plane protection with TI-LFA all nodes in the network will be enabled for SR. The less overhead required for the protection the better. You may just not have a room for adding additional 40 bytes to each packet at each potential PLR without fragmentation. > > > > Regarding all of your other TI-LFA related questions - I am sure Krzysztof will be happy to answer them for you internally :) After all this is what your public demo was all about .... > > > > Best, > > Robert, > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > > ipv6@ietf.org > > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > Gyan Mishra > > Network Engineering & Technology > > Verizon > > Silver Spring, MD 20904 > > Phone: 301 502-1347 > > Email: gyan.s.mishra@verizon.com > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > --------------------------------------------------------------------
- Header Insertion and TI-FA Ron Bonica
- Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA Gyan Mishra
- Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA Gyan Mishra
- RE: Header Insertion and TI-FA Ron Bonica
- Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA Robert Raszuk
- Other use cases for header insertion (was Re: Hea… Tom Herbert
- Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA Tom Herbert
- Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA Gyan Mishra
- RE: Header Insertion and TI-FA Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
- Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA Andrew Alston
- Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA Andrew Alston
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Mark Smith
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Robert Raszuk
- Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA Gyan Mishra
- Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA Mark Smith
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Nick Hilliard
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Tom Herbert
- Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA Andrew Alston
- Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA Gyan Mishra
- RE: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Ron Bonica
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Robert Raszuk
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Stewart Bryant
- RE: Header Insertion and TI-FA Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
- RE: Header Insertion and TI-FA Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
- RE: Header Insertion and TI-FA Andrew Alston
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Toerless Eckert
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Robert Raszuk
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Mark Smith
- Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA Mark Smith
- Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA Robert Raszuk
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… S Moonesamy
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Stewart Bryant
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Robert Raszuk
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Stewart Bryant
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Tom Herbert
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Uma Chunduri
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Fernando Gont
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Uma Chunduri
- Re: Other use cases for header insertion (was Re:… Fernando Gont