Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA

Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> Mon, 11 May 2020 22:11 UTC

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From: Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 08:10:44 +1000
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Subject: Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA
To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" <pcamaril=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>, "6man@ietf.org" <6man@ietf.org>
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On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 03:13, Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
<pcamaril=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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> Gyan,
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> SRH insertion is NOT part of draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-15.
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Removal is, and it is just as much of a hack as EH insertion is.













> (SRH insertion is documented in draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-net-pgm-insertion-02 with a normative reference to draft-voyer-6man-extension-header-insertion-08).
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> > Spring - Please provide section within PGM that has the verbiage of the 6in6 encapsulation
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> This is already in the net-pgm draft (since rev 00). Please see https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-15#section-5 .
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> Thanks,
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> Pablo.
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> From: ipv6 <ipv6-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Gyan Mishra
> Sent: lunes, 11 de mayo de 2020 18:02
> To: Krzysztof Szarkowicz <kszarkowicz@gmail.com>
> Cc: Ron Bonica <rbonica=40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org>; 6man <6man@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: Header Insertion and TI-FA
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> Krzysztof
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> So you agree with what I stated as the workaround.
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> Please read through exactly what I stated as the complete workaround.
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> If we are all in agreement with the prepend (6in6) encap) workaround can we have the PGM draft updated to reflect.
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> All
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> With regards to the 6MAN appeal,  the issues were PSP and this issue with TI-LFA from what I recall.
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> Was their any other issue outside of these two mentioned in the appeal that we need to address and come up with a workaround?
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> Thank you
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> Gyan
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> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:09 AM Krzysztof Szarkowicz <kszarkowicz@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi Robert,
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> If we have prepend, why bother with insertion at all? Prepend (6in6 encap) is much cleaner, IMHO.
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> Regards,
> Krzysztof
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> > On 2020 -May-11, at 16:38, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote:
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> > Hi Ron,
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> > > normalizing header insertion for the special case where the PLR is a segment endpoint
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> > When an operator is serious about good data plane protection with TI-LFA all nodes in the network will be enabled for SR. The less overhead required for the protection the better. You may just not have a room for adding additional 40 bytes to each packet at each potential PLR without fragmentation.
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> > Regarding all of your other TI-LFA related questions - I am sure Krzysztof will be happy to answer them for you internally :)  After all this is what your public demo was all about ....
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> > Best,
> > Robert,
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