Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <draft-ietf-6man-rfc6724-update>
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Subject: Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <draft-ietf-6man-rfc6724-update>
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David, We thought so. There was a lot of discussion and changes as a result of the previous last call, the chairs thought a second last call was warranted. Bob > On Apr 10, 2024, at 8:37 AM, David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu> wrote: > > Is another last call at this time a good idea? Don't we first need to resolve the SHOULD vs. MUST for the insertion of known-local ULAs? Then, apply appropriate rewrites as necessary, unless you think a last call is the best way to resolve that issue. > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 10:29 AM Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com <mailto:bob.hinden@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Given the number of changes since the first w.g. last call, the chairs, in consultation with the authors, are staring a second 6MAN working group last call for this document. >> >> This email starts a second two week 6MAN Working Group Last Call on advancing "Preference for IPv6 ULAs over IPv4 addresses in RFC6724" document >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6man-rfc6724-update/ >> >> as a Standards Track document. >> >> A summary of changes since the -06 version is below. A good diff to review is: >> >> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-6man-rfc6724-update-08&url2=draft-ietf-6man-rfc6724-update-06&difftype=--html >> >> [New draft on left due to line length problem with old draft] >> >> Substantive comments and statements of support for publishing this document should be directed to the ipv6@ietf.org <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org> mailing list. Editorial suggestions can be sent to the authors. This last call will end on 24 April 2024 23:59 UTC. >> >> Also, one issue the authors would like feedback on is if the requirement is a SHOULD or MUST for inserting known-local ULA prefixes into their policy table with a precedence above both GUAs and IPv4, while leaving all other general ULAs at a lower precedence. It is a SHOULD in the -08 draft, but there has been support for a MUST in the discussion. >> >> Bob, Jen, Ole >> 6MAN chairs >> >> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> From: Tim Chown <Tim.Chown=40jisc.ac.uk@dmarc.ietf.org <mailto:40jisc.ac.uk@dmarc.ietf.org>> >>> Subject: Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6724-update-08.txt >>> Date: April 9, 2024 at 7:47:57 AM PDT >>> To: IPv6 List <ipv6@ietf.org <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Actually it works better I notice with 08 on the left and 06 on the right, as -06 has the broken formatting, so please check the diff from -06 to the current -08 using: >>> >>> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-6man-rfc6724-update-08&url2=draft-ietf-6man-rfc6724-update-06&difftype=--html >>> >>> The changes are largely around making the MAY insert local entries into a SHOULD insert known-locals, with a little more text on how we’d determine those. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>>> On 9 Apr 2024, at 15:13, Nick Buraglio <buraglio@forwardingplane.net <mailto:buraglio@forwardingplane.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>> We have published -08 of the rfc6724 update, this fixes some >>>> formatting and other typographical oversights >>>> The following sections address comments from the lis (difft from -06 >>>> to -08 is the most useful comparison): >>>> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-6man-rfc6724-update-06&url2=draft-ietf-6man-rfc6724-update-08&difftype=--html >>>> >>>> >>>> Brief overview of the changes from -06: >>>> >>>> Section 2: >>>> Add terminology section and define known-local >>>> >>>> Section 3: >>>> Add section on elevating >>>> upgrades the requirement in RFC 6724 for nodes to insert a higher >>>> precedence entry in the policy table for observed ULA prefixes that >>>> are known to be local, referred to in this document as "known-local" >>>> ULAs, from a MAYto a SHOULD. >>>> >>>> Section 4: >>>> Changes the 6to4 prefix deprecation to match Teredo, adds further >>>> clarity and reference to RFC6724 section 10.7 >>>> >>>> Section 5: >>>> Add text to upgrade the requirement to automatically insert >>>> known-local ULAs into a node's policy table from a MAY to a SHOULD. >>>> >>>> Section 5.3 >>>> Further define insertion and removal parameters and requirements for >>>> known-local ULA prefixes into table and associated values and label >>>> >>>> Section 7.2: >>>> Further clarify GUA-GUA preferred over ULA-ULA details >>>> >>>> Section 7.3: >>>> Further clarify ULA-ULA preferred over IPv4-IPv4 details >>>> >>>> Section 8: >>>> Housekeeping and formatting changes >>>> >>>> Section 9.2: >>>> Describe the new known-local interaction and how it addresses issues >>>> with ULAs in global DNS >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Further copy edit and housekeeping. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >>>> ipv6@ietf.org <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org> >>>> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >>> ipv6@ietf.org <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org> >>> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >> ipv6@ietf.org <mailto:ipv6@ietf.org> >> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > =============================================== > David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu <mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu> > Networking & Telecommunication Services > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 > ===============================================
- [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6724-update… internet-drafts
- Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6724-up… Nick Buraglio
- Re: [IPv6] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-rfc6724-up… Tim Chown
- [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <draft-… Bob Hinden
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Bob Hinden
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Mark Smith
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Kyle Rose
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Mark Smith
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Tim Chown
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Kyle Rose
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Kyle Rose
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Kyle Rose
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Kyle Rose
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ole Troan
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ole Troan
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Jeremy Duncan
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Jeremy Duncan
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Kyle Rose
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Tim Chown
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Mark Smith
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Jeremy Duncan
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Michael Richardson
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Mark Smith
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Mark Smith
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Tim Chown
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Jared Mauch
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Jeremy Duncan
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Mark Smith
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Kyle Rose
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Jeremy Duncan
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Kyle Rose
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Kyle Rose
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Kyle Rose
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Tim Chown
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Kyle Rose
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Kyle Rose
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ole Trøan
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Tim Chown
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Brian Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Kyle Rose
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ole Trøan
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Kyle Rose
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Jared Mauch
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ole Troan
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… David Farmer
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Tim Chown
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Mark Smith
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Jared Mauch
- Re: [IPv6] Second Working Group Last Call for <dr… Kyle Rose