Re: [LOOPS] BOF co-chairs thinking on LOOPS next steps

Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> Tue, 30 July 2019 11:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: [LOOPS] BOF co-chairs thinking on LOOPS next steps
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I fully agree with Mirja. There are pieces already being implemented in
existing groups.

Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D.
Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory
mariejose@mjmontpetit.com
mariejo@mit.edu

On July 30, 2019 at 6:34:46 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (ietf@kuehlewind.net)
wrote:

Hi Carsten, hi Spencer,

> On 25. Jul 2019, at 20:59, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <
spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My impression, and Magnus might say I'm insane, was that Magnus is right
on the edge of whether this work can be chartered without a second, working
group-forming BOF. If the LOOPS community can't live without host-to-node,
the community should add it. If the community can make use of LOOPS without
host-to-node and add it later, the community might consider whether that
reduces the scope of the initial proposed charter enough to help Magnus
approve it :-)

Yes, it would be possible to charter without another BoF a small and
well-scoped group, however, it also would be possible to work on small and
well-defined pieces of work without a new working group. This was one of
the reasons why this was not a non-wg-forming BoF because it is not clear
yet if a new group is needed or the resulting pieces of standardization
work are small enough to fit into an existing group.

Therefore, I really recommend focus on defining the standardising work
items that you think are needed rather than trying to do any word-smithing
of a potential charter (that eventually is not needed).

Mirja



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