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Re: [mile] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-mile-rolie-10

"Waltermire, David A. (Fed)" <david.waltermire@nist.gov> Mon, 23 October 2017 19:24 UTC

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From: "Waltermire, David A. (Fed)" <david.waltermire@nist.gov>
To: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>, "art-ads@ietf.org" <art-ads@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-mile-rolie.all@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-mile-rolie.all@ietf.org>, "mile@ietf.org" <mile@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [mile] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-mile-rolie-10
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Thanks Peter!

This is helpful confirmation.

Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Saint-Andre [mailto:stpeter@stpeter.im]
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 3:10 PM
> To: Waltermire, David A. (Fed) <david.waltermire@nist.gov>; art-
> ads@ietf.org; draft-ietf-mile-rolie.all@ietf.org; mile@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [mile] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-mile-rolie-10
> 
> On 10/23/17 12:33 PM, Waltermire, David A. (Fed) wrote:
> > Ben, Alexey, and Adam,
> >
> > Working through Martin's ARTART review of ROLIE, we had the following
> exchange with Martin.
> >
> >>>> From martin:
> >>>> Question: it's fairly widely accepted that use of IRIs in Atom has
> >>>> been less than successful.  Do you want to mandate use of URIs
> >>>> instead?  This would apply to both link relations and the "src" attribute.
> >>>
> >>> From Stephen:
> >>> We wanted to stay in line with the requirements in Atom, if this
> >>> becomes
> >> an issue it may be worth re-examining.
> >>
> >> From Martin:
> >> This is your chance.  You don't get to go back or re-examine once
> >> your protocol is widely deployed.
> >
> > I understand Martin's point above. It is basically that URIs are more
> narrowly scoped and interoperable than IRIs are. From my experience I have
> seen that URIs are broadly used, and IRIs have not seen much use. Given this
> feedback, it looks like the best thing to do might be to break with ATOM and
> use the more restrictive URI in ROLIE to ensure the best possible
> interoperability within resulting solutions.
> >
> > What do you think about such a change? Any advice?
> 
> The Atom RFCs were published at a time when IRIs were at the height of
> their (limited) popularity. Although I don't recall the details, it might even
> have been the case that an Area Director said "you really ought to be using
> IRIs because they are more general". I don't see a significant issue with
> scoping MILE/ROLIE to use URIs, because they are a subset of IRIs.
> 
> Peter
>

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