Re: [mpls] [sfc] Working Group adoption of draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

["BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" <[e-mail]>]

Hi,

Both myself (AD for MPLS) and Martin (AD for SFC and SPRING) were consulted on this draft and we agreed for it to progress in MPLS.

WG adoption allows the document to be a document of the working group vs. the authors. If you have input for the document, provide it on the MPLS list. The document will be coordinated at key transitions with SFC. This is not the first time that documents early in their timelines may seem to overlap in the different groups, and need the authors to collaborate to sort out/merge, as these documents are ultimately products of IETF, and not the individual authors.

I noted below it is said that this new version does not eliminate the conflict with the other draft’s approach. It is best to say specifically which text is in conflict and do a proposal to align.

Thanks,
Deborah


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Subject: Re: [sfc] [mpls] Working Group adoption of draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

Hey Wim,

It is very obvious on what basis this adoption happened ....

If ADs do not take any serious action here it will progress smooth & direct to RFC.

I am only a bit puzzled why the WG last call has not started yet on this :/.

Best,
R.


On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 10:25 AM, Henderickx, Wim (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
Similar comment here on what basis do we adopt this. There were serious issues and although a new draft was posted they have not been addressed. On what basis do you adopt this? I thought IETF works on basis of consensus and in my view this was not achieved so far.

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Subject: Re: [mpls] Working Group adoption of draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

Hi Loa,

I don't believe the modification in Section 6 of draft-farrel-mpls-sfc (https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-farrel-mpls-sfc-05.txt<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_rfcdiff-3Furl2-3Ddraft-2Dfarrel-2Dmpls-2Dsfc-2D05.txt&d=DwMFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=6UhGpW9lwi9dM7jYlxXD8w&m=KYDHMX0VHLQFDKH4tDeCulCk3aZJkwGUKsyTKezhMLQ&s=ztYp9cmCmsjVMZ_-dGDWFg9kO1Kj7tP9b3VpgMVoJrw&e=>) has eliminated the serious conflict with the SR-MPLS-based SFC approach as described in  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-mpls-service-chaining-03<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_html_draft-2Dxu-2Dmpls-2Dservice-2Dchaining-2D03&d=DwMFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=6UhGpW9lwi9dM7jYlxXD8w&m=KYDHMX0VHLQFDKH4tDeCulCk3aZJkwGUKsyTKezhMLQ&s=G-AiwBZi02SAyGhGBxiXhU_BHgQcuYKJlxpyeTYsgz0&e=> (note that this draft has been merged into https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-clad-spring-sr-service-chaining-00<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_html_draft-2Dxu-2Dclad-2Dspring-2Dsr-2Dservice-2Dchaining-2D00&d=DwMFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=6UhGpW9lwi9dM7jYlxXD8w&m=KYDHMX0VHLQFDKH4tDeCulCk3aZJkwGUKsyTKezhMLQ&s=Ul-MW_AEUW2CKbWwZ3C0KOPM0gW5dUwxoMFR050i1T0&e=>), as had been pointed by many people before.

Therefore, it seems a little bit unreasonable to hurry the adoption of the current version, IMHO.

Xiaohu
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[mpls] Working Group adoption of draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

Working Group,

The MPLS working group have decided to adopt draft-farrel-mpls-sfc-05 as
an MPLS working group document.

Can the authors please post draft-ietf-mpls-sfc-00, without any other
than administrative (filename, version and dates) changes.

/Loa
for the MPLS wg chairs

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