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Re: [mpls] [sfc] Working Group adoption of draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

Adrian Farrel <afarrel@juniper.net> Mon, 23 April 2018 12:14 UTC

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From: Adrian Farrel <afarrel@juniper.net>
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Subject: Re: [mpls] [sfc] Working Group adoption of draft-farrel-mpls-sfc
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Hi Zafar,

Thank you for the comments.  We are not aware that any IPR has been disclosed in relation to any of the relevant drafts.  If there are such IPR issues, we encourage them to be disclosed in accordance with the IETF policy.  In the meantime, we believe our draft remains appropriate and do not agree that Section 6 should be removed.

Thanks,
Adrian

From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Zafar Ali (zali)
Sent: 15 April 2018 05:44
To: Stewart Bryant; 徐小虎 (义先)
Cc: mpls@ietf.org<mailto:mpls@ietf.org>; SPRING WG List; Robert Raszuk; sfc@ietf.org<mailto:sfc@ietf.org>; mpls
Subject: Re: [mpls] [sfc] Working Group adoption of draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

Dear Stewart, WG Chairs and the WG,

I do not agree with Stewart’s points and will response in a separate email. But all that is just noise and that cannot resolve the issue at hand.

A countless time, Xiaohu has raised the issue that the intellectual property for the contents in section 6 of draft-farrel-mpls-sfc belongs to draft-xu-mpls-service-chaining. Please see one of Xiaohu's recent emails with the subject "[spring] For the fairness and justice of the IETF culture" dated Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 12:34 AM, copied in the following.

This issue was also raised by many during the WG adoption poll of the document. The chairs adopted the work with the promise of fixing the issue. Specifically, in the email to announce the adoption of the ID to the WG, the chair(s) mentioned the following:

"That decision is taken, the issues that has been pointed out are
noted. These issues need to be resolved on the mailing list and
rough consensus need to be reached for text changes in the document.
Actually the members of the working group have much more influence on
a working group document, than on an individual draft.
It would be far better if we now focused on proposing text changes,
rather than discussing processes."

This is a serious issue; we need to remove section 6 from draft- farrel-mpls-sfc to move forward. These contents will proceed in draft-xu*, where the contents started initially. Everyone will have a fair chance to contribute to the contents as part of collaborations on draft-xu*.

Thanks

Regards … Zafar

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