Re: [Mtgvenue] editor's take on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 02 May 2018 00:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] editor's take on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process
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On 02/05/2018 11:58, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 2 May 2018, at 9:43 am, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> --On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 08:35 +1000 Mark Nottingham
>> <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2 May 2018, at 7:14 am, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Given the above (and implicitly incorporating at least some
>>>> of > Alissa's comments), do you believe it is necessary and >
>>>> appropriate that we change our procedures to give parents
>>>> with > small children (and possibly other groups with special
>>>> issues) > priority on bookings in the meeting hotel?
>>
>>> It seems like we could borrow from common practice on public
>>> transport; if you're pregnant / with small children /
>>> mobility-challenged (permanently or temporarily), you get
>>> access to a separate hotel booking block / preferred seating
>>> in the meeting rooms.
>>
>> Mark, 
>>
>> Again, I was trying to ask whether people thought this was
>> desirable and appropriate, not how to do it if that conclusion
>> were reached.  Your suggestion is about the (or at least an)
>> obvious way to do it if that conclusion were reached.  
> 
> Then please consider my answer as a "yes".
> 
>> That said, an observation to save others, especially IAOC
>> members, time.   While I'm pleased that it has apparently not
>> been a problem for Montreal, we seem to routinely have
>> complain-fests about the main hotel room block selling out
>> almost as soon as reservations open.  Now think about the effect
>> of reserving a block of unknown but probably large size (because
>> we don't have even a rough estimate of how many people would
>> want to use it) on that sometimes already-tight situation and be
>> careful what you wish for.
> 
> I find it difficult to respond to these potential effects without returning to a discussion of "how to do it." If I were to do so, my suggestion would be to start small and gather data.

Makes sense. So it seems reasonable to lay a duty on IASA to
consider child care, without being prescriptive at this time.

   Brian