Re: [Mtgvenue] editor's take on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process

Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 02 May 2018 04:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] editor's take on draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process
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> On May 1, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 02/05/2018 11:58, Mark Nottingham wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 May 2018, at 9:43 am, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 08:35 +1000 Mark Nottingham
>>> <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2 May 2018, at 7:14 am, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Given the above (and implicitly incorporating at least some
>>>>> of > Alissa's comments), do you believe it is necessary and >
>>>>> appropriate that we change our procedures to give parents
>>>>> with > small children (and possibly other groups with special
>>>>> issues) > priority on bookings in the meeting hotel?
>>> 
>>>> It seems like we could borrow from common practice on public
>>>> transport; if you're pregnant / with small children /
>>>> mobility-challenged (permanently or temporarily), you get
>>>> access to a separate hotel booking block / preferred seating
>>>> in the meeting rooms.
>>> 
>>> Mark, 
>>> 
>>> Again, I was trying to ask whether people thought this was
>>> desirable and appropriate, not how to do it if that conclusion
>>> were reached.  Your suggestion is about the (or at least an)
>>> obvious way to do it if that conclusion were reached.  
>> 
>> Then please consider my answer as a "yes".

It was very nice as an AD to have that luxury, so I’d say it’s desirable for parents of children nursing.  If it’s not possible, a mothers room would be very helpful.

Best,
Kathleen 
>> 
>>> That said, an observation to save others, especially IAOC
>>> members, time.   While I'm pleased that it has apparently not
>>> been a problem for Montreal, we seem to routinely have
>>> complain-fests about the main hotel room block selling out
>>> almost as soon as reservations open.  Now think about the effect
>>> of reserving a block of unknown but probably large size (because
>>> we don't have even a rough estimate of how many people would
>>> want to use it) on that sometimes already-tight situation and be
>>> careful what you wish for.
>> 
>> I find it difficult to respond to these potential effects without returning to a discussion of "how to do it." If I were to do so, my suggestion would be to start small and gather data.
> 
> Makes sense. So it seems reasonable to lay a duty on IASA to
> consider child care, without being prescriptive at this time.
> 
>   Brian