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Re: [Mtgvenue] New Draft: draft-elkins-mtgvenue-participation-metrics

Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@nomountain.net> Wed, 13 July 2016 20:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] New Draft: draft-elkins-mtgvenue-participation-metrics
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On 7/13/16 12:07 PM, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
> So on drafts, I would similarly go for "simple": if you post a draft,
> you have participated.

I have a few concerns about the draft, and one of the primary
ones is that I'm hopeful that "participation" is being defined in
service of the broader goal of figuring out who ought to be
at meetings, but I'm not sure it is.  There may well be value in
defining "participation" more generally, within the overall context
of the organization (and I do think it would be useful to figure
out what the activity levels actually are), but I hope we don't
lose sight of which problems we're trying to solve in this particular
working group.

Melinda

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