Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constrained devices
Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Sat, 31 March 2012 09:28 UTC
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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:28:47 +0200
From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constrained devices
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On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:48:30PM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: > On 03/30/2012 10:10 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > >On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:07:46AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: > > > >>But assuming one insisted on using a subset of NETCONF for some reason, > >>one can write an applicability statement that documented how to > >>advertise the ietf-netconf module plus some deviations to > >>identify what is missing from the implementation. (The AS is only needed > >>because we are assuming implementers are too dumb to understand RFC 6020 > >>I suppose.) > > > >This is kind of funny. The I-D actually says an incomplete NETCONF > >implementation calls itself 'NETCONF Light' (and not 'NETCONF'2) while > >you seem to prefer that an incomplete NETCONF implementation calls > >itself 'NETCONF' and then posts some deviations. > > > >(While server implementors might be too dumb, it might also be that > >client implementors are too dumb to handle deviations well.) > > > > There is no NETCONF Light -- and I hope there never will be one. > That is just a meaningless marketing term. NETCONF for Constrained > Devices might be OK if it provided some meaningful set of CM functionality. > > Your draft assumes that customers are too dumb to know the difference. The way NETCONF Light is defined in the I-D, it is not a marketing term. I understand you do not like the -01 I-D, I can follow your argument that some set of NETCONF operations should be mandatory, the rest however just seems to be noise. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/>
- [Netconf] FW: NETCONF WG Session Summary Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [Netconf] FW: NETCONF WG Session Summary Juergen Schoenwaelder
- [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constraine… Bert Wijnen (IETF)
- Re: [Netconf] FW: NETCONF WG Session Summary Phil Shafer
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Cole, Robert G CIV USARMY CERDEC (US)
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Phil Shafer
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Jonathan.Hansford
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Jonathan.Hansford
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Phil Shafer
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Randy Presuhn