Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constrained devices
Andy Bierman <andy@netconfcentral.org> Sat, 31 March 2012 01:13 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constrained devices
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On 03/30/2012 09:51 AM, Cole, Robert G CIV USARMY CERDEC (US) wrote: > Bert, > > I am interested in a NETCONF-lite for constrained devises. However, I worry about approaches that either baseline at either a) NETCONF- zero with vendors adding whatever features they think appropriate or b) NETCONF with vendors subtracting whatever deviations they think appropriate. I would, for simplicity sake, prefer the expertise in the WG to define a baseline NETCONF-lite feature set that I could easily explain to my acquisition and procurement folks. > This seems reasonable -- if we can agree on the definition of a constrained device. According to the draft, 'constrained' can mean either the device resources or the server developer resources. NETCONF is intended to provide configuration management functionality. I think the people who want NETCONF-Light should write a requirements document that defines a constrained device, identifies the specific use cases and specific subset of CM functionality that is mandatory for constrained devices. I am concerned about application developers who need to provide meaningful CM functionality to customers, and this will be nearly impossible unless the IETF agrees on a mandatory-to-implement subset of NETCONF. > Thanks, Bob Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bert Wijnen (IETF) [mailto:bertietf@bwijnen.net] > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 08:47 AM > To: netconf@ietf.org<netconf@ietf.org> > Subject: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constrained devices > > We would like to encourage the WG participants to > engage in a discussion on how to allow for > the use of NetConf for constrained devices. > > See below the summary of our discussion at this weeks > session in IETF83. > > Please express your opinions and pls describe > the pros and cons (as you see them) of each > possible approach. > > It might also be good if someone (Andy?) could > summarize/describe how exactly one can in fact support > constrained devices with standard Netconf plus > a "deviations" approach. Maybe an example would be > the best way to demonstrate how that would be done. > > Bert and Mehmet > > On 3/30/12 10:32 AM, Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich) wrote: >> NETCONF-Light: >> >> Juergen Schoenwaelder described the updated document, which defines only >> the hello message as mandatory. Andy Bierman questioned the strategy to >> provide a solution which is competing with the current NETCONF protocol >> standard, where deviations can be used to reduce the standard features >> for an implementation. The WG was in favor of the draft however the >> issue needs to be solved and needs a discussion on the maillist as one >> of the key contributors of the draft was not present. NETCONF-Light >> makes use of the TLS Pre-Shared Key (PSK) authentication introduced in >> the update of NETCONF over TLS. > _______________________________________________ > Netconf mailing list > Netconf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf > _______________________________________________ > Netconf mailing list > Netconf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf > >
- [Netconf] FW: NETCONF WG Session Summary Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [Netconf] FW: NETCONF WG Session Summary Juergen Schoenwaelder
- [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constraine… Bert Wijnen (IETF)
- Re: [Netconf] FW: NETCONF WG Session Summary Phil Shafer
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Cole, Robert G CIV USARMY CERDEC (US)
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Phil Shafer
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Jonathan.Hansford
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Jonathan.Hansford
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Phil Shafer
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] Netconf Light or Netconf for constr… Randy Presuhn