Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-system-mgmt
Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com> Fri, 13 December 2013 12:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-system-mgmt
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Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> wrote: > Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com> writes: > > > Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> wrote: > >> Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> writes: > >> > >> > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> just an idea: would it help if the server simply records the mapped > >> >> DisplayString version in state data? > >> >> > >> >> > >> > No. I am OK with the proposal to force the server to constrain the > >> > objects > >> > >> Why not, actually? I mean something like this: > >> > >> { "system-state" : { > >> ... > >> "location" : "Schrödingerstraße", > >> "mib:sysLocation" : "Schroedingerstrasse", > >> ... > >> } > >> > >> This is similar to what Randy proposed with "legacy-location", but it > >> is in *state*, so it doesn't introduce a second configuration object. > > > > But why report the MIB object at all in this case? > > > > If we decide these objects are really separate, I don't see the need > > to report the MIB object. A manager that wants to see the SNMP object > > in addition to the NETCONF object (for some reason) can use SNMP. > > But the two object are not separate, they are coupled! > > If a NETCONF client configures "location", the server maps the value > to a DisplayString, records the result in "mib:sysLocation" and > updates the MIB object with it. Aha, so this is an alternative where an implementation MAY map, and if it maps, it MUST (?) use some vendor-specific translation, and it MUST record this in the read-only variable mib-sys-location. If this is what you meant, I still don't think the read-only variable is necessary. The value is available over SNMP. /martin
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-system-mg… Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… ietfdbh
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… ietfdbh
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… ietfdbh
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Juergen Schoenwaelder