Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-system-mgmt
Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com> Tue, 10 December 2013 18:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-system-mgmt
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Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 01:23:30PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Randy Presuhn <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com> wrote: > > > Hi - > > > > > > >From: Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> > > > > > > > > is mapped to sysLocation. sysLocation is defined as a > > > > DisplayString [RFC2579] > > > > which uses a 7-bit ASCII character set. An implementation that > > > > performs this > > > > mapping MUST restrict the allowed values for "location" to > > > > match > > > > the > > > > restrictions of sysLocation."; > > > > > > I understand why folks might do this, but it still gives > > > me heartburn. I believe it was a mistake when we failed > > > to extend the syntax of these MIB objects to permit > > > Unicode, and I believe it's a mistake to perpetuate the > > > limitation here. I recognize that this is a messy problem, > > > but surely we can do better than this, even if it's as > > > simple a hack as having "location" and "legacy-location". > > > > I don't think it makes much sense to have two such similar objects in > > this data model. > > > > One option would be to simply remove the connection between > > sysLocation and this new location leaf (and same for contact), > > essentially making the snmp object the "legacy" object. > > Another option is to turn the logic around. That is, if there is a > non-ASCII character in the YANG object, the mapping to the > corresponding MIB object must take precautions to comply with the MIB > restrictions (e.g., representing the non-ASCII character using \u and > \U escape sequences). The mapping to the MIB object would also have to > do proper truncations. The details of the mapping I assume would be > implementation specific. An implementation MUST NOT restrict? Note that the current text simply says MAY restrict. > This approach allows us to move to a unicode-based world rather than > carrying old ASCII restrictions forward endlessly (which is what I > think Randy is concerned about). /martin
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-system-mg… Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… ietfdbh
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… ietfdbh
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… ietfdbh
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syste… Juergen Schoenwaelder