Re: [Ntp] changes in length of day, was Re: New Version Notification for draft-gruessing-ntp-ntpv5-requirements-03.txt
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kristof.teichel@ptb.de <kristof.teichel@ptb.de> wrote: > Yeah, sorry, I forgot to add that these weren't idle fears. The earth > rotation does appear to be speeding up right now, it is just a bit > unclear whether or not it will *keep* doing it long enough for that > negative leap second to become necessary. The best way I know of to get a rough indication of when the next leap second might happen is using IERS Bulletin A. It contains predictions of DUT1 for the next year, plus a simple equation that can be used for longer term projections. It's basically a linear multiple of the current length of day (less 24*60*60 seconds) plus some seasonal adjustment terms that aren't relevant to the current discussion. In the last few years, the Bulletin A estimated long-term LoD was longest in June 2016 at +1470 µs. It dropped fairly steadily, eventually becoming less than 86400 seconds in November last year. It stopped getting shorter in May and is now gradually getting longer, but the LoD is still 220 µs less than 24*60*60 s, which suggests there might be a negative leap second in about 8 years, if things don't change, though they certainly will change. Here's some output from a program I wrote: https://github.com/fanf2/bulletin-a 2020-01-02 -> 2023-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.594 ± 0.053 s (lod +320 µs) 2020-01-09 -> 2023-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.582 ± 0.053 s (lod +310 µs) 2020-01-16 -> 2023-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.563 ± 0.053 s (lod +290 µs) 2020-01-23 -> 2023-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.555 ± 0.053 s (lod +280 µs) 2020-01-30 -> 2023-12-31 (+) UT1-UTC -0.569 ± 0.058 s (lod +270 µs) 2020-02-06 -> 2024-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.612 ± 0.063 s (lod +250 µs) 2020-02-13 -> 2024-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.596 ± 0.063 s (lod +240 µs) 2020-02-20 -> 2024-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.581 ± 0.063 s (lod +230 µs) 2020-02-27 -> 2024-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.567 ± 0.063 s (lod +220 µs) 2020-03-05 -> 2024-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.554 ± 0.063 s (lod +210 µs) 2020-03-12 -> 2024-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.540 ± 0.062 s (lod +200 µs) 2020-03-19 -> 2025-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.591 ± 0.073 s (lod +190 µs) 2020-03-26 -> 2025-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.569 ± 0.073 s (lod +180 µs) 2020-04-02 -> 2025-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.570 ± 0.072 s (lod +180 µs) 2020-04-09 -> 2025-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.552 ± 0.072 s (lod +170 µs) 2020-04-16 -> 2025-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.551 ± 0.072 s (lod +170 µs) 2020-04-23 -> 2025-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.530 ± 0.072 s (lod +160 µs) 2020-04-30 -> 2026-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.564 ± 0.082 s (lod +150 µs) 2020-05-07 -> 2026-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.569 ± 0.082 s (lod +150 µs) 2020-05-14 -> 2026-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.574 ± 0.081 s (lod +150 µs) 2020-05-21 -> 2026-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.554 ± 0.081 s (lod +140 µs) 2020-05-28 -> 2026-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.556 ± 0.081 s (lod +140 µs) 2020-06-04 -> 2026-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.556 ± 0.081 s (lod +140 µs) 2020-06-11 -> 2026-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.553 ± 0.081 s (lod +140 µs) 2020-06-18 -> 2026-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.528 ± 0.080 s (lod +130 µs) 2020-06-25 -> 2026-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.526 ± 0.080 s (lod +130 µs) 2020-07-02 -> 2026-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.520 ± 0.080 s (lod +130 µs) 2020-07-09 -> 2027-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.539 ± 0.090 s (lod +120 µs) 2020-07-16 -> 2028-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.549 ± 0.099 s (lod +110 µs) 2020-07-23 -> 2028-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.547 ± 0.099 s (lod +110 µs) 2020-07-30 -> 2028-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.520 ± 0.099 s (lod +100 µs) 2020-08-06 -> 2028-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.522 ± 0.098 s (lod +100 µs) 2020-08-13 -> 2029-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.523 ± 0.107 s (lod +90 µs) 2020-08-20 -> 2029-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.518 ± 0.107 s (lod +90 µs) 2020-08-27 -> 2030-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.508 ± 0.116 s (lod +80 µs) 2020-09-03 -> 2031-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.493 ± 0.125 s (lod +70 µs) 2020-09-10 -> 2031-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.489 ± 0.124 s (lod +70 µs) 2020-09-17 -> 2032-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.470 ± 0.133 s (lod +60 µs) 2020-09-24 -> 2033-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.487 ± 0.141 s (lod +60 µs) 2020-10-01 -> 2034-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.452 ± 0.149 s (lod +50 µs) 2020-10-08 -> 2037-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.441 ± 0.173 s (lod +40 µs) 2020-10-15 -> 2040-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.412 ± 0.195 s (lod +30 µs) 2020-10-22 -> 2045-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.377 ± 0.231 s (lod +20 µs) 2020-10-29 -> 2045-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.376 ± 0.231 s (lod +20 µs) 2020-11-05 -> 2054-06-30 (+) UT1-UTC -0.318 ± 0.292 s (lod +10 µs) 2020-11-12 -> ????-??-?? (?) 2020-11-19 -> ????-??-?? (?) 2020-11-26 -> 2158-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.843 ± 0.841 s (lod -20 µs) 2020-12-03 -> 2073-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.416 ± 0.411 s (lod -30 µs) 2020-12-10 -> 2053-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.317 ± 0.288 s (lod -40 µs) 2020-12-17 -> 2048-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.347 ± 0.255 s (lod -50 µs) 2020-12-24 -> 2042-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.400 ± 0.212 s (lod -70 µs) 2020-12-31 -> 2040-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.422 ± 0.198 s (lod -80 µs) 2021-01-07 -> 2037-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.459 ± 0.175 s (lod -100 µs) 2021-01-14 -> 2035-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.443 ± 0.159 s (lod -110 µs) 2021-01-21 -> 2033-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.458 ± 0.143 s (lod -130 µs) 2021-01-28 -> 2033-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.503 ± 0.142 s (lod -140 µs) 2021-02-04 -> 2031-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.476 ± 0.125 s (lod -160 µs) 2021-02-11 -> 2031-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.511 ± 0.125 s (lod -170 µs) 2021-02-18 -> 2030-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.488 ± 0.116 s (lod -180 µs) 2021-02-25 -> 2030-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.526 ± 0.116 s (lod -190 µs) 2021-03-04 -> 2030-06-30 (-) UT1-UTC +0.502 ± 0.111 s (lod -200 µs) 2021-03-11 -> 2029-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.525 ± 0.107 s (lod -210 µs) 2021-03-18 -> 2029-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.559 ± 0.107 s (lod -220 µs) 2021-03-25 -> 2028-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.509 ± 0.097 s (lod -230 µs) 2021-04-01 -> 2028-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.538 ± 0.097 s (lod -240 µs) 2021-04-08 -> 2028-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.564 ± 0.097 s (lod -250 µs) 2021-04-15 -> 2028-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.561 ± 0.097 s (lod -250 µs) 2021-04-22 -> 2028-06-30 (-) UT1-UTC +0.515 ± 0.092 s (lod -260 µs) 2021-04-29 -> 2028-06-30 (-) UT1-UTC +0.514 ± 0.092 s (lod -260 µs) 2021-05-06 -> 2028-06-30 (-) UT1-UTC +0.512 ± 0.091 s (lod -260 µs) 2021-05-13 -> 2028-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.578 ± 0.096 s (lod -260 µs) 2021-05-20 -> 2028-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.573 ± 0.096 s (lod -260 µs) 2021-05-27 -> 2028-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.569 ± 0.096 s (lod -260 µs) 2021-06-03 -> 2028-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.539 ± 0.095 s (lod -250 µs) 2021-06-10 -> 2028-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.536 ± 0.095 s (lod -250 µs) 2021-06-17 -> 2028-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.534 ± 0.095 s (lod -250 µs) 2021-06-24 -> 2028-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.534 ± 0.095 s (lod -250 µs) 2021-07-01 -> 2028-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.534 ± 0.095 s (lod -250 µs) 2021-07-08 -> 2028-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.531 ± 0.094 s (lod -250 µs) 2021-07-15 -> 2028-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.527 ± 0.094 s (lod -250 µs) 2021-07-22 -> 2028-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.522 ± 0.094 s (lod -250 µs) 2021-07-29 -> 2029-06-30 (-) UT1-UTC +0.509 ± 0.099 s (lod -240 µs) 2021-08-05 -> 2029-06-30 (-) UT1-UTC +0.505 ± 0.098 s (lod -240 µs) 2021-08-12 -> 2029-06-30 (-) UT1-UTC +0.505 ± 0.098 s (lod -240 µs) 2021-08-19 -> 2029-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.546 ± 0.103 s (lod -230 µs) 2021-08-26 -> 2029-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.548 ± 0.103 s (lod -230 µs) 2021-09-02 -> 2029-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.550 ± 0.102 s (lod -230 µs) 2021-09-09 -> 2029-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.551 ± 0.102 s (lod -230 µs) 2021-09-16 -> 2029-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.554 ± 0.102 s (lod -230 µs) 2021-09-23 -> 2029-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.556 ± 0.102 s (lod -230 µs) 2021-09-30 -> 2029-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.558 ± 0.102 s (lod -230 µs) 2021-10-07 -> 2029-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.560 ± 0.102 s (lod -230 µs) 2021-10-14 -> 2029-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.532 ± 0.101 s (lod -220 µs) 2021-10-21 -> 2029-12-31 (-) UT1-UTC +0.533 ± 0.101 s (lod -220 µs) Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finch <dot@dotat.at> https://dotat.at/ Lundy, Fastnet, Irish Sea: Southwest 6 or 7, increasing gale 8 at times. Rough or very rough in Fastnet, otherwise moderate or rough, occasionally very rough. Occasional rain. Good, occasionally poor.
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