Re: [Ntp] New Version Notification for draft-gruessing-ntp-ntpv5-requirements-03.txt

Danny Mayer <mayer@pdmconsulting.net> Thu, 21 October 2021 15:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ntp] New Version Notification for draft-gruessing-ntp-ntpv5-requirements-03.txt
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On 10/21/21 7:59 AM, kristof.teichel@ptb.de wrote:
> I only have second-hand insight, really.
> What I gather is that there is a growing fear of a situation similar 
> to the Y2K bug scare, because it is predicted that (for the first time 
> I believe) there could soon be a negative leap second and time sync 
> appliances might just fail in the face of having to deal with that.
> I will try to get better info, in particular quantifying chances and 
> timeframe.

The only way that is likely to happen is if the earth rotation speeds 
up, which is extremely unlikely. The only ways that I can think of that 
happening would be either a volcano about to spew enough energy in the 
right direction and an asteroid hitting the earth with a glancing blow. 
Either would be catastrophic. It would be better to not remove a 
leapsecond and just wait for the next time a positive leapsecond 
adjustment is needed.

Danny