Re: [openpgp] How to re-launch the OpenPGP WG
Jon Callas <jon@callas.org> Thu, 12 March 2015 18:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] How to re-launch the OpenPGP WG
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> On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Werner Koch <wk@gnupg.org> wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 14:38, singpolyma@singpolyma.net said: > >>> - A v5 key format. Prepare for forthcoming public key algorithms. >> >> What sorts of changes do you see being needed here? > > In the past we collected several ideas for a v5 key format. We need to > revisit the list archives. IIRC, the plan was to first wait for the > outcome of the SHA-3 competition. There were other things we talked about as well in V5. I think that connected and separate, a hash-independent way to do a fingerprint is called for. There was a nice proposal for that in the archives -- algorithm-id:hash-value -- the abbreviated one. > >> that work is usually done under this WG as well. Do you see moving >> more in that direction, or a full-on new RFC coming out of proposed >> work? > > Eventually a single new RFC should be done - for a v5 format this will > be needed anyway. Or not -- it's a decision of the new working group. We traditionally put everything into one document. That has a lot of advantages. There's essentially one place to check. Other WGs -- for example, S/MIME -- have a lot of separate documents. That means they can work on things in parallel, but makes it harder to wind through the mass of documents. I think more than one but less than fifty (which is only a slight exaggeration -- the last time I checked there were over 35 S/MIME documents) is a good compromise. But yeah, I think you'd want to revise 4880 for new stuff. There are, however, a number of ways to organize that. Jon
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