Re: [openpgp] How to re-launch the OpenPGP WG

Derek Atkins <warlord@MIT.EDU> Mon, 16 March 2015 13:28 UTC

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From: Derek Atkins <warlord@MIT.EDU>
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Cc: Werner Koch <wk@gnupg.org>, Christoph Anton Mitterer <calestyo@scientia.net>, openpgp@ietf.org, DataPacRat <datapacrat@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [openpgp] How to re-launch the OpenPGP WG
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"James P. Howard" <jh@jameshoward.us> writes:

> Is there an upvote button for this?  I even tweeted about this yesterday!
>
>   https://twitter.com/howardjp/status/576473455949967360
>
> The current signed-XML standard is an awful awful thing and having a usable
> standard for signed text formats (XML, JSON, whatever) would would make the
> implementation a de facto default.

Have you looked a JOSE?

I think this would be out of scope for OpenPGP.

> James Howard

-derek

> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 10:30 AM, DataPacRat <datapacrat@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 7:57 AM, Werner Koch <wk@gnupg.org> wrote:
>     > On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 20:51, datapacrat@gmail.com said:
>     >
>     >> I'm interested in certain aspects of Webs of Trust, such as their
>     >> potential to overcome certain problematic aspects of centralized
>     >
>     > Using this ML for discussin is IMHO okay but trust modells are not a
>     > goal of the OpenPGP standard.  It might turn out that a certain feature
>     > would be useful and that would be something which can be put into the
>     > standard.
>    
>     Will the new OpenPGP standard explicitly include some form of
>     text-file (or XML, or JSON) format for keys, along the lines of the
>     venerable 'BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK'? If so, then as long as it
>     includes at least one free-form-text comments field which can be used
>     for arbitrary additional data, such as a score indicating exactly how
>     much Bayesian trust the key-signer has that the listed key belongs to
>     its indicated owner, then that would likely be sufficient to cover the
>     cases I'm thinking of. (There is room for some further elaboration,
>     such as cryptographically signing said comments, if the general idea
>     meets approval.)
>
>     Thank you for your time,
>     --
>     DataPacRat
>     "Then again, I could be wrong."
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