Re: [openpgp] How to re-launch the OpenPGP WG
Derek Atkins <derek@ihtfp.com> Thu, 02 April 2015 14:53 UTC
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From: Derek Atkins <derek@ihtfp.com>
To: Christoph Anton Mitterer <calestyo@scientia.net>
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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 10:53:13 -0400
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] How to re-launch the OpenPGP WG
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Christoph Anton Mitterer <calestyo@scientia.net> writes: > On Wed, 2015-03-25 at 23:27 +0000, ianG wrote: >> Here's my big criticism of the IETF process: like all processes it >> eventually ends up becoming a place for people to create silos of >> knowledge and careers, and eventually divorces itself from what's >> happening out there in the real world. But it holds the keys to some >> powerful Internet protocol components, and while it's not bringing in >> the new, outside knowledge, the IETF WG becomes the blockage, the inner >> sanctum, the guilds that the IETF swore to bring down. >> >> So what do we do? Leave? Stay? Fight? > So do you have any better proposal idea? > > Anything more governmental (ISO, national standardisation bodies) or > more commercial (ECMA) would IMHO be quite bad (since they're all known > to be rather on the dark side of the force, and while they may have > cookies, it's probably not what we should want). > > Not much is left the in the free/community world.... W3? Far too much in > committee mode either, far to easily influenced by big players (see the > whole HTML5 DRM stuff). > > Doing it independently... doesn't seem appealing either. > > > I'd say IETF is quite the right place. For now there's nothing that says we *NEED* an official working group. Although having one would make the process easier. > Cheers, > Chris. -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 derek@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant
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