Re: [openpgp] How to re-launch the OpenPGP WG
Wyllys Ingersoll <wyllys@gmail.com> Fri, 20 March 2015 13:46 UTC
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From: Wyllys Ingersoll <wyllys@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 13:46:47 +0000
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] How to re-launch the OpenPGP WG
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MIME is fine for PGP over email, but do keep in mind that PGP is not strictly used in email and using MIME is not necessarily helpful and is possibly needlessly complicated in some of the other use cases (just encrypting personal files and data at rest, for example). And if we are going to start talking about "PGP/MIME", then I think revising RFC-3156 should be part of the discussion at some point. As it is stands today, it is impossible to craft a proper "PGP/MIME" message unless your mail client directly supports 3156. It requires special SMTP headers that are usually set by the mail client and over which the user has no control (and don't get me started on that extra "version 1" MIME section...). -Wyllys On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:14 PM Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> wrote: > As a branding issue, I would pick the name PGP/MIME for the working group > and make the focus decrufting legacy bits of PGP and making a MIME based > scheme the new common denominator for framing. > > If there was also a clearly defined strategy for interop with S/MIME > credentials then such a specification could be positioned as the future > upgrade path for OpenPGP and S/MIME. > > Since an S/MIME credential can be turned into a fingerprint pretty easily > and the fingerprints are what people actually use in practice to exchange > OpenPGP mail. This is not exactly a major problem. > > (Yes I know that there is a PGP/MIME mode at the moment. but that isn't > the point). > > Think of it as embrace and extend... > _______________________________________________ > openpgp mailing list > openpgp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/openpgp >
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- Re: [openpgp] How to re-launch the OpenPGP WG Benjamin Kaduk
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- Re: [openpgp] How to re-launch the OpenPGP WG Benjamin Kaduk
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