Re: [openpgp] How to re-launch the OpenPGP WG

DataPacRat <datapacrat@gmail.com> Sat, 14 March 2015 14:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [openpgp] How to re-launch the OpenPGP WG
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On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 7:57 AM, Werner Koch <wk@gnupg.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 20:51, datapacrat@gmail.com said:
>
>> I'm interested in certain aspects of Webs of Trust, such as their
>> potential to overcome certain problematic aspects of centralized
>
> Using this ML for discussin is IMHO okay but trust modells are not a
> goal of the OpenPGP standard.  It might turn out that a certain feature
> would be useful and that would be something which can be put into the
> standard.

Will the new OpenPGP standard explicitly include some form of
text-file (or XML, or JSON) format for keys, along the lines of the
venerable 'BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK'? If so, then as long as it
includes at least one free-form-text comments field which can be used
for arbitrary additional data, such as a score indicating exactly how
much Bayesian trust the key-signer has that the listed key belongs to
its indicated owner, then that would likely be sufficient to cover the
cases I'm thinking of. (There is room for some further elaboration,
such as cryptographically signing said comments, if the general idea
meets approval.)


Thank you for your time,
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DataPacRat
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