Re: [openpgp] a new draft overlapping the WG draft

Werner Koch <wk@gnupg.org> Mon, 10 October 2022 12:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [openpgp] a new draft overlapping the WG draft
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On Tue,  4 Oct 2022 16:42, Tom said:

> does this mean that your stance is that GnuPG will remain exactly as-is
> regardless of what the new OpenPGP spec says, and if the new OpenPGP spec

Whatever these OpenPGP specs ever will be.  We deployed things years ago
and won't extend that unless there are sound reasons for it.

It would be a bit sad if we eventually need to state: "GnuPG implements
OpenPGP as specified by RFC-4880 and RFC-6337 plus some extensions
described [[here]]".  However, our users and their data is more
important to us than implementing a newer RFC.


Salam-Shalom,

   Werner

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