Re: [openpgp] a new draft overlapping the WG draft
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] a new draft overlapping the WG draft
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Hi Derek, On 30/09/2022 14:12, Derek Atkins wrote: > As someone who has only participated by mailing lists for the past 7 > years, and knowing the history of this group/list -- it can sometimes be > very hard to tell whether consensus on the mailing list implies consensus > of the WG. This is particularly true when the group has formed and > disbanded several times over the past few decades. That's fair. OTOH, one main reason for the DT process was to provide a way to verify that there was (current) WG consensus for the (relatively many, and almost all fine) changes that were made that had not been considered by an active IETF working group. That was explicitly discussed so I don't understand how anyone can still get things so wrong on that process topic. Cheers, S.
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