Re: [openpgp] a new draft overlapping the WG draft
Tom <tom@flowcrypt.com> Tue, 04 October 2022 16:42 UTC
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] a new draft overlapping the WG draft
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Werner, does this mean that your stance is that GnuPG will remain exactly as-is regardless of what the new OpenPGP spec says, and if the new OpenPGP spec is at a conflict with GnuPG, you are content with GnuPG becoming a non-compliant implementation? Cheers, Tom On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 4:34 PM Werner Koch <wk@gnupg.org> wrote: > On Tue, 4 Oct 2022 15:54, Tom said: > > > Is there no middle ground? Something that would allow GnuPG a smooth > > transition to a new spec while taking web browser implementations into > > account? > > ... and taking embedded devices into account. > > The former is easy: just convince the browser vendors to implement > modern cryptoo. It is an easy task technically. (While at it, ask them > why 8 years after a pathc has been provided, Brainpool curves are still > not implemented and thus inbiting the use of qualified signature in > Europe). > > For the latter, some of the new features (IIRC, S2K requirements) seem > to be very problematic. > > > GnuPG? Presumably it would be i) added effort to maintain two AEAD > > Won't happen for complexity reasons and to avoid algorithm > proliferation. > > > of this translates to difficult work. Any other impact? Assuming all of > > this work is done, what would this mean for GnuPG end users? > > I guess some web mailers won't be interoperable with regular mail. > > For interoperability between specifications, I would suggest that > crypto-refresh makes the use of the marker packet with a content > different from "PGP" mandatory. > > > Salam-Shalom, > > Werner > > -- > The pioneers of a warless world are the youth that > refuse military service. - A. Einstein > -- Tom at FlowCrypt
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