[p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available
br at brianrosen.net (Brian Rosen) Thu, 24 August 2006 13:44 UTC
From: "br at brianrosen.net"
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:44:31 -0400
Subject: [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available
In-Reply-To: <20060824040216.93770.qmail@web54002.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <026f01c6c783$6f0db3d0$6a01a8c0@cis.neustar.com>
While I think this work is interesting, I believe it?s beyond what we would consider within our first charter. Are there people who think otherwise? ________________________________________ From: p2p-sip-bounces at cs.columbia.edu [mailto:p2p-sip-bounces at cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of K.Yamamoto Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:02 AM To: Juwei Shi; Seaward Hu; p2p-sip at cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available I AGREE HIERARCHICAL MORE EASY AND DISLIKES MESS TOO. BUT UNLESS YOU DELIBERATELY MANIPULATE EVERY MULTI-OVERLAY NODES SO THAT A NODE CAN SAY "HEY, MY CHORD STACK DOES NOT CONNECT WITH ANOTHER CHORD NODE ALSO IN PASTRY OVERLAY BUT CONNECT WITH THE OTHER CHORD NODE ALSO IN BT OVERLAY", OTHERWISE AUTONOMOUS INTERCONNECTION OF MULTI-OVERLAY NODES VERY POSSIBLY WILL FORM A CYCLIC MESH. EXAMPLE: LETS DENOTE A NODE OF MULTI-OVERLAYS X AND Y AS XY. INTERCONNECT NODES ABC, AC AND BC FORMS A MESH. WHEN YOU CAN MANIPULATE NODES OF MULTIPLE OVERLAYS, WHY NOT MANIPULATE THEM TO USE ONLY ONE OVERLAY? THANK YOU. --KY PLEASE QUALITY CONTROL LIKE BUILDING A LEXUS. Juwei Shi <jwshi at bupt.edu.cn> wrote: ? Yes, I agree with Seaward, hierarchically inter-connecting heterogeneous overlays is more practical than the mesh based approach.? ? ? ? Interworking among heterogeneous hierarchical is more efficient than do it meshy, you can not expect a flat huge mesh over whole world can work reliably, the reason why mesh is used is the absence of a acceptable standard. Thanks. Seaward ? ________________________________________ From: p2p-sip-bounces at cs.columbia.edu [mailto:p2p-sip-bounces at cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of K.Yamamoto Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 2:16 AM To: Juwei Shi; p2p-sip at cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: ??0 2???: [p2p-sip] A New Internet-draft is available WHEN NUMEROUS MULTI-OVERLAID NODES ARE INTERCONNECTED, "the interworking among heterogenous overlays" IS GENERALLY MESSY NOT HIERACHICAL. THANK YOU. --KY PLEASE QUALITY CONTROL LIKE BUILDING A LEXUS. Juwei Shi <jwshi at bupt.edu.cn> wrote: The NAT issues will be discussed in our future drafts. This draft focuses on the interworking among heterogenous overlays and the SIP-over-P2P architecture in one single overlay is proposed by E. Shim etc. http://www.p2psip.org/drafts/draft-shim-sipping-p2p-arch-00.txt Thanks Juwei ________________________________________ ????????oo: K.Yamamoto [mailto:kyara543 at yahoo.com] ???????????????????: 2006?1??8???23????? 12:21 ????????oo: Juwei Shi; p2p-sip at cs.columbia.edu ????????: Re: [p2p-sip] A New Internet-draft is available THE DOCUMENT IS GORGEOUS BUT NEED RENAME AS "A MESHY ARCHITECTURE AMONG MULTIPLE P2P-SIP NETWORKS". FOMULA "Node-ID=Hash(Node-IP)" HAS PROBLEM WITH MULTIPLE NODES BEHIND A NAT. THERE IS LITTLE ABOUT P2P OR SIP, FOR ONE SINGLE OVERLAY. THANK YOU. --KY PLEASE QUALITY CONTROL LIKE BUILDING A LEXUS. Juwei Shi <jwshi at bupt.edu.cn> wrote: Hello, all We have submitted a new Internet-draft entitled a???A Hierarchical P2P-SIP Architecturea???. This draft focuses on the SIP-over-P2P architecture and interworking of heterogeneous overlay networks. ? This document is available in the Internet-drafts archive now: http://www3.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-shi-p2psip-hier-arch-00..txt Comments are welcomed! Thanks Juwei Juwei Shi Wireless Technology Innovation Institute (WTI) Beijing Univ. of Posts and Telecommunications (BUPT) Tel: +86-10-62283600 ext. 312 Email: jwshi at bupt.edu.cn _______________________________________________ p2p-sip mailing list p2p-sip at cs.columbia.edu https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/cucslists/listinfo/p2p-sip ? ________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2???/min or less. ________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2??/min or less. ________________________________________ Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Juwei Shi
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available K.Yamamoto
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Brian Rosen
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Henry Sinnreich
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Spencer Dawkins
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Peter Pan
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Henry Sinnreich
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Peter Pan
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Matthew Kaufman
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Henry Sinnreich
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Peter Pan
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Dean Willis
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Peter Pan
- 答复: RE:_[p2p-sip]_A_New_Internet-draft_is_availab… Juwei Shi
- 答复: RE:_[p2p-sip]_A_New_Internet-draft_is_availab… Sandford Bessler
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Roy, Radhika R.
- Re: 答复: RE:_[p2p-sip]_A_New_Internet-draft_is_ava… Michael Slavitch
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Juwei Shi
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Cullen Jennings
- [p2p-sip] __A_New_Internet-draft_is_available Peter Pan