Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..comments please.
"Daryl Malas" <D.Malas@cablelabs.com> Wed, 23 April 2008 16:45 UTC
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From: Daryl Malas <D.Malas@cablelabs.com>
To: Hadriel Kaplan <HKaplan@acmepacket.com>, Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us>, Otmar Lendl <lendl@nic.at>, peppermint@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..comments please.
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Comments in-line... -----Original Message----- From: Hadriel Kaplan [mailto:HKaplan@acmepacket.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:34 AM To: Daryl Malas; Richard Shockey; Otmar Lendl; peppermint@ietf.org Subject: RE: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..comments please. > -----Original Message----- > From: Daryl Malas [mailto:D.Malas@cablelabs.com] > > I recommend we further simplify: > > The scope will be limited to defining the following criteria necessary > for a SSP to respond with the necessary Session Establishment Data > (SED) for both internal and external purposes: OK, so here you're defining the minimal data needed to be exchanged by DRINKS, in order for an SSP to provide SED - right? [DM] Yes. > + Routes > - Destination SIP/SIPS/TEL URI Egress and Ingress Routes > - Relevant route names, identifiers, and services > - NAPTR context and associations When you exchange data, it may be in the form of a NAPTR in syntax and maybe even semantics, but it's not really a "NAPTR" DNS entry - it just happens to be that you chose to format the resultant route information in the form of a NAPTR. So I think the word "NAPTR" shouldn't be in the charter's list of data to be exchanged. We may just happen to use that format in the end for the data, but there's nothing about the data that demands it. (and in fact I personally think it's confusing and misleading to be using that specific format in the data exchange directly, but we can argue about that later :) [DM] Ok...do not use NAPTR. > + Service Areas > - Individual, ranges, or groups of ENUMservice > identifiers > - Route associations I don't know what a "Route association" is? [DM] This is associating a "Service Area" to an Ingress or Egress Route as will be defined in the previous point "Routes". > + Treatment Profiles > - Priority > - Location I note this doesn't directly include originating or source information, which is fairly essential to SIP routing, afaict. Is that something you'd classify under "route associations" or "treatment profiles", or do you specifically not want that in the charter? [DM] The purpose is source or destination information is defined under "Routes". Treatment is then applied under Treatment Profiles. -hadriel _______________________________________________ PEPPERMINT mailing list PEPPERMINT@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/peppermint
- [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..comments p… Richard Shockey
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Richard Shockey
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Dan York
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Richard Shockey
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Otmar Lendl
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Otmar Lendl
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Richard Shockey
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… David Schwartz
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Otmar Lendl
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Richard Shockey
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Daryl Malas
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Daryl Malas
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Daryl Malas
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Richard Shockey
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Richard Shockey
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Otmar Lendl
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Daryl Malas
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Dwight, Timothy M (Tim)
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Daryl Malas
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Daryl Malas
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Dwight, Timothy M (Tim)
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Daryl Malas
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Richard Shockey
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Daryl Malas
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Dwight, Timothy M (Tim)
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Richard Shockey
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… David Schwartz
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… PFAUTZ, PENN L, ATTCORP
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Richard Shockey
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Richard Shockey
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Daryl Malas
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Dwight, Timothy M (Tim)
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Richard Shockey
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Guyton, Deborah A
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… PFAUTZ, PENN L, ATTCORP
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Dwight, Timothy M (Tim)
- [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter Version 02 Richard Shockey
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter Version … Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… David Schwartz
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Richard Shockey
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Otmar Lendl
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Ray.Bellis
- Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..commen… Richard Shockey