Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..comments please.

"PFAUTZ, PENN L, ATTCORP" <ppfautz@att.com> Thu, 24 April 2008 12:02 UTC

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From: "PFAUTZ, PENN L, ATTCORP" <ppfautz@att.com>
To: Hadriel Kaplan <HKaplan@acmepacket.com>, Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us>, "Dwight, Timothy M (Tim)" <timothy.dwight@verizonbusiness.com>, Daryl Malas <D.Malas@cablelabs.com>, Otmar Lendl <lendl@nic.at>, peppermint@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..comments please.
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Putting the Service Area concept in the charter still gives me
heartburn. If Drinks is about more than ESPP that doesn't make sense. If
you want to introduce the concept of some aggregate later, after robust
discussion, fine. Not all of us are ready to drink the kool-aid.


Penn Pfautz

-----Original Message-----
From: peppermint-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:peppermint-bounces@ietf.org]
On Behalf Of Hadriel Kaplan
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:45 PM
To: Richard Shockey; 'Dwight, Timothy M (Tim)'; 'Daryl Malas'; 'Otmar
Lendl'; peppermint@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [PEPPERMINT] DRINKS PROPOSED Charter ..comments please.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Shockey [mailto:richard@shockey.us]
>
> No one is proposing a solution. We are describing  that we do not
propose
> exchanging data on Collateralized Debt Instruments and Mortgage
Interest
> Swaps among SSP's

Sure, I'm all in favor of getting a charter approved post-haste.  Even
if it means my ideas for "Mortgage Interest eXchanges" (MIX) will have
to wait for a charter update.  (too bad too, 'cause a draft-drinks-mix
would have been a recipe for success in my opinion)

But seriously, how "detailed" do we need to be in the charter regarding
this data?  I think Daryl's proposed data with some minor nits is broad
enough not to cause heartburn later, while not letting us get drunk in
the possibilities. :)

How about this:

[begin]
The scope will be limited to defining the following criteria necessary
for a SSP to respond with the necessary Session Establishment Data (SED)
for both internal and external purposes:

        + Routes
                - Destination SIP/SIPS/TEL URI Egress and Ingress Routes
                - Relevant route names, identifiers, and services
                - Attributes affecting route selection
        + Service Areas
                - Individual, ranges, or groups of user-agent
identifiers
                - Route-to-service-area associations
        + Treatment Profiles
                - Priority
                - Location

The mechanism(s) chosen should be extensible, in case additional
criteria are deemed necessary to achieve the goals of the WG in the
future.
[end]

-hadriel
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