Re: Logotypes in certificates
Dean Povey <povey@dstc.qut.edu.au> Tue, 27 March 2001 00:16 UTC
Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id TAA21766 for <pkix-archive@odin.ietf.org>; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:16:50 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost by above.proper.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA09099; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:16:17 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail.imc.org (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:16:16 -0800
Received: from thunder.dstc.qut.edu.au (thunder.dstc.qut.edu.au [131.181.71.1]) by above.proper.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09069 for <ietf-pkix@imc.org>; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:16:14 -0800 (PST)
Received: from dstc.qut.edu.au (garnet.dstc.qut.edu.au [131.181.71.36]) by thunder.dstc.qut.edu.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2R0G9m26987; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:16:09 +1000 (EST)
Message-Id: <200103270016.f2R0G9m26987@thunder.dstc.qut.edu.au>
X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4
To: michael@stroeder.com
cc: ietf-pkix@imc.org
Subject: Re: Logotypes in certificates
In-Reply-To: Message from Michael Ströder <michael@stroeder.com> of "Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:39:11 +0100." <3ABD3E2F.F3214329@stroeder.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:16:09 +1000
From: Dean Povey <povey@dstc.qut.edu.au>
Precedence: bulk
List-Archive: http://www.imc.org/ietf-pkix/mail-archive/
List-ID: <ietf-pkix.imc.org>
List-Unsubscribe: mailto:ietf-pkix-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe
>> One way, is that the CA can ensure that the logo is a registered >> trademark owned by the subject it is being issued to. The USPTO and other >> organisations like it already have processes to ensure that trademarks are >> not confusingly similar. > >I disagree. The organizations registering trade marks/logos (e.g. >Deutsches Patentamt in Germany) do not guarantee that the trade >marks/logos are not similar to others. They're just doing the >registration, no exhaustive checking for conflicts => a CA cannot >rely on such a service. My apologies, I made such a broad generalisation based on my knowledge of what I had recently read about the USPTO and what I remembered about the Trademark process in Australia. I think you would concede however that while they might not do exhaustive checking, the trademark process provides some level of assurance as companies are quite vigilant about protecting their trademarks. Users merely have to treat the information appropriately in view of this, as they have to do with all information that they find in a Certificate. -- Dean Povey, | e-m: povey@dstc.edu.au | JCSI: Java Crypto Toolkit Research Scientist | ph: +61 7 3864 5120 | uPKI: C PKI toolkit for embedded Security Unit, DSTC | fax: +61 7 3864 1282 | systems Brisbane, Australia | www: security.dstc.com | Oscar: C++ PKI toolkit
- RE: Logotypes in certificates David Cross
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Michael Zolotarev
- Re: Logotypes in certificates Anders Rundgren
- RE: Logotypes in certificates David Cross
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Stefan Santesson
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Stefan Santesson
- Re: Logotypes in certificates Rich Salz
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Trevor Freeman
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Trevor Freeman
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Ambarish Malpani
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Trevor Freeman
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Michael Zolotarev
- Re: Logotypes in certificates Eric Murray
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Stefan Santesson
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Michael Myers
- Re: Logotypes in certificates Stefan Santesson
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Stephen Kent
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Andrew Hoag
- Re: Logotypes in certificates Dean Povey
- Re: Logotypes in certificates Dean Povey
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Tim Moses
- RE: Logotypes in certificates todd.glassey
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Stefan Santesson
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Stephen Kent
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Stefan Santesson
- Re: Logotypes in certificates Dean Povey
- Re: Logotypes in certificates Stephen Kent
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Ambarish Malpani
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Tom Gindin
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Michael Zolotarev
- Re: Logotypes in certificates Terry Hayes
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Peter Gutmann
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Hal Lockhart
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Stephen Kent
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Stephen Kent
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Stephen Kent
- RE: Logotypes in certificates David Cross
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Stefan Santesson
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Michael Zolotarev
- RE: Logotypes in certificates todd.glassey
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Trevor Freeman
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Russ Housley
- Re: Logotypes in certificates Dean Povey
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Michael Zolotarev
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Manger, James H
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Stephen Kent
- Re: Logotypes in certificates David P. Kemp
- Re: Logotypes in certificates Michael Ströder
- Re: Logotypes in certificates Dean Povey
- Re: Logotypes in certificates Michael Ströder
- Re: Logotypes in certificates Dean Povey
- Re: Logotypes in certificates Michael Ströder
- Re: Logotypes in certificates Stefan Santesson
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Bob Jueneman
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Stefan Santesson
- RE: Logotypes in certificates todd.glassey
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Stephen Kent
- Re: Logotypes in certificates Anders Rundgren
- RE: Logotypes in certificates Stefan Santesson