Re: QUIC ossification

Ian Swett <ianswett@google.com> Fri, 15 February 2019 01:22 UTC

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From: Ian Swett <ianswett@google.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 20:22:06 -0500
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Subject: Re: QUIC ossification
To: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 8:13 PM Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, at 12:09, David Schinazi wrote:
> > One potential change to v1 that has come out of this discussion is that
> > we could change the 32bit version number from 0x00000001 to a value
> > randomly generated at RFC publication time.
>
> I didn't get an answer to my questions about that, because that seems
> silly.
>

I believe the concern is that a middlebox/etc will conclude that a certain
range of versions are IETF standard versions and should be allowed and
others are fine to block because they're experimental, thereby making the
majority of versions largely undeployable.


>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, at 12:11, Martin Duke wrote:
> > I think we are edging towards shenanigans in v1 deployments, possibly
> > involving IANA action?
>
> The IANA bit would be a good one to track.  For some reason that is lost
> to me, we decided not to have IANA manage this space.  I never really
> understood how that was supposed to work, so I would definitely support
> having them take that bit over.
>
>