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Re: QUIC ossification

Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> Thu, 14 February 2019 05:08 UTC

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From: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
To: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: QUIC ossification
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On Thu, Feb 14, 2019, at 15:48, Jana Iyengar wrote:
> Basically, I'm proposing that QUIC v1 be assigned a random number for its
> version at RFC publication time. 

What property do you expect that to provide?

> Anyone who wants to use a different version for v1 MUST request it from IANA first before using it in the wild. 

This too.  What does this achieve?

I get that there seems to be the emerging view that unmanaged codepoint space is not good and we should ask IANA to manage it for us, but I don't understand what these proposals would provide.

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