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Re: QUIC ossification

Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen <mikkelfj@gmail.com> Thu, 14 February 2019 05:59 UTC

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From: Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen <mikkelfj@gmail.com>
To: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>, Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
CC: QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: QUIC ossification
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Version of the month is problematic:

Google server would need to support a basic V1, otherwise non-chrome user agents would fail. Chrome browsers would have to reject V1 or the greasing won’t work. This can only happen towards Google servers. Middleboxes now check for V1 or Google domain. Eith future encrypted request domain, it is a perfect wsy to firewall Google via Chrome. Users switch to other browser.


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Fra: QUIC <quic-bounces@ietf.org> på vegne af Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
Sendt: torsdag, februar 14, 2019 6:08 AM
Til: Jana Iyengar
Cc: QUIC WG
Emne: Re: QUIC ossification

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019, at 15:48, Jana Iyengar wrote:
> Basically, I'm proposing that QUIC v1 be assigned a random number for its
> version at RFC publication time.

What property do you expect that to provide?

> Anyone who wants to use a different version for v1 MUST request it from IANA first before using it in the wild.

This too. What does this achieve?

I get that there seems to be the emerging view that unmanaged codepoint space is not good and we should ask IANA to manage it for us, but I don't understand what these proposals would provide.

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