Re: QUIC ossification

Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 13 February 2019 22:21 UTC

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From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 16:21:13 -0600
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Subject: Re: QUIC ossification
To: Roberto Peon <fenix@fb.com>
Cc: Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>, Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>, David Benjamin <davidben@google.com>, Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>, Ian Swett <ianswett=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>, Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen <mikkelfj@gmail.com>, "quic@ietf.org" <quic@ietf.org>, Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
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Hi, Roberto,

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 3:52 PM Roberto Peon <fenix@fb.com> wrote:

> Better that they have to explicitly block than they accidentally block?
>

Well, right, but I'm not sure why someone accidentally blocking (especially
QUICv1) is less likely to do that because we created a registry.

But I asked Christian a question just before the IAB telechat today, so I
should probably wait to give him a chance to explain what he was thinking.

Spencer


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> *From: *QUIC <quic-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Spencer Dawkins at IETF
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> *Date: *Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 10:03 AM
> *To: *Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>
> *Cc: *Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>, Roberto Peon <fenix@fb.com>, David
> Benjamin <davidben@google.com>, Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>, Ian
> Swett <ianswett=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, David Schinazi <
> dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>, Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen <mikkelfj@gmail.com>, "
> quic@ietf.org" <quic@ietf.org>, Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
> *Subject: *Re: QUIC ossification
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> Hi, Christian,
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> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:28 AM Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>
> wrote:
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> How about an IANA registry of version numbers, tied to the extension
> process?
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> Asking as an individual - ISTM that QUIC might go through version numbers
> quickly enough to make a registry for version numbers a Good Thing, but
> could you help me understand how this helps discourage middleboxes blocking
> everything but QUICv1?
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> I'm sure I'm missing something here ...
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> Thanks,
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> Spencer
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