Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext-radius-fragmentation-06
Peter Deacon <peterd@iea-software.com> Wed, 21 August 2013 18:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext-radius-fragmentation-06
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On Fri, 9 Aug 2013, Jouni Korhonen wrote: > Based on the discussion in Berlin we are ready to start another > adoption call for the solution for fragmentation of RADIUS packets. I would support this draft with narrower scope as interim solution addressing a specific use. Have some concerns with draft as a general solution: Section 2. RFC5176 dynamic auth clients are not necessarily always RADIUS servers. We have production systems where CoA client and RADIUS server are separate with separate roles. Seeing value in maintaining separation I do not favor Additional-Authorization. Accounting proposal is not atomic and depends on assumptions about type of content. (e.g long attribute not able to fit within 4096 byte limit cannot be transmitted) Proposed 'T' bit in extended long attributes means existing systems supporting extended attributes may require enhancement to pass needed data. Despite 'SHOULD' language from RFC6929 I do not believe it reasonable expectation proxy systems able to understand an attribute known to be broke would elect to forward such an attribute anyway. General. Attribute proxy not possible without proxy server modification to support draft. Existing proxy servers not supporting draft may lose ability to understand/enforce policy when attribute fragmentation is used. Section 5. A policy of limiting large RADIUS UDP packets to MTU would about triple number of round trips needed to convey same information. Section 10. Message-Authenticator does not offer replay protection. Recommend text "This signature prevents forging to the limits of the existing security." regards, Peter
- [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext-rad… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Stefan Winter
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Sam Hartman
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Peter Deacon
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Stefan Winter
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Peter Deacon
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alejandro Perez Mendez
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Stefan Winter
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alejandro Perez Mendez
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alejandro Perez Mendez
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alejandro Perez Mendez
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Peter Deacon
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Peter Deacon
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alejandro Perez Mendez
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Stefan Winter
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Sam Hartman
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Peter Deacon
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Peter Deacon
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Diego R. Lopez
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Peter Deacon
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Sam Hartman
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Sanchez, Mauricio
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alejandro Perez Mendez
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Diego R. Lopez