Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext-radius-fragmentation-06
Stefan Winter <stefan.winter@restena.lu> Fri, 23 August 2013 12:01 UTC
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Subject: Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext-radius-fragmentation-06
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Hi, >> That doesn't seem right. If a proxy supports RFC6929, but not the >> fragmentation draft, it will not know that the T flag exists and can't >> react accordingly. It will see an M flag and some gibberish in the >> Reserved field (which RFC6929 says should simply be ignored). It will >> observe that the M flag requirements are violated and has every right to >> drop the packet. > > Yes. That presumes (a) everyone implements RFC 6929, and (b) those > implementations get deployed to proxies. Most RADIUS servers are versaitle enough to act as server and proxy; Radiator has hinted towards 6929 support soon, and I believe your FreeRADIUS is a reference implementation of it since a long time. Both can proxy, and both are in wide-spread use. I think the issue is not artificial; it may well bite a deployment in its backside. That's not the end of the world though; simply adding a sentence in the draft such a case exists and that deployments need to take care that their deployed implementation(s) don't stumble over this. > I think initially the idea is to have fragmentation from server to > server. i.e. few (if any) APs will be implementing it. So the issue > becomes less relevant. Aha! I had the impression that authz exchanges in the ABFAB world go all the way from/to the RADIUS client that does the whole GSS EAP magic. And that this is the equivalent of an "AP" in the non-network-access use case. > A server local to the AP can track a users session, including SSID. > And then make proxy decisions based on that. The proxies in the wider > network will *not* know about the site's SSID, and will *not* be basing > proxy decisions on it. That's something I can live with. Again, documenting in the draft that User-Name is the only proxying criterion would be enough for me then. Maybe a second one explaining that client to first-server is not in scope/has complexities that can make the use of this draft hard/unsuitable. Greetings, Stefan > > Alan DeKok. > _______________________________________________ > radext mailing list > radext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/radext > -- Stefan WINTER Ingenieur de Recherche Fondation RESTENA - Réseau Téléinformatique de l'Education Nationale et de la Recherche 6, rue Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi L-1359 Luxembourg Tel: +352 424409 1 Fax: +352 422473
- [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext-rad… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Stefan Winter
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Sam Hartman
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Peter Deacon
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Stefan Winter
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Peter Deacon
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alejandro Perez Mendez
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Stefan Winter
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alejandro Perez Mendez
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alejandro Perez Mendez
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alejandro Perez Mendez
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Peter Deacon
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Peter Deacon
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alejandro Perez Mendez
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Stefan Winter
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Sam Hartman
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Peter Deacon
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Peter Deacon
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Diego R. Lopez
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Peter Deacon
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Sam Hartman
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Sanchez, Mauricio
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Alejandro Perez Mendez
- Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext… Diego R. Lopez