Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext-radius-fragmentation-06

Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> Wed, 04 September 2013 12:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: [radext] Adoption call for draft-perez-radext-radius-fragmentation-06
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Sam Hartman wrote:
> I think there was significant support for the idea that this draft alone
> is insufficient and that we want to revisit the RADIUS message size over
> TCP.

  I agree.

> I do not believe the discussion supports the idea that this draft will
> be a singular solution.

  The discussion at the last IETF showed this.  There is wide-spread
support for large packets over TCP.

  From what I can see, the only issue with large packets is negotiation.
 How does each end know that the other supports large packets?

  Once that problem is solve, the rest of the draft is simple.  I don't
think that there are many other side effects of allowing large packets.

  Alan DeKok.