Re: [re-ECN] Conex charter - now in External Review

ken carlberg <carlberg@g11.org.uk> Thu, 29 April 2010 09:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: [re-ECN] Conex charter - now in External Review
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On Apr 29, 2010, at 4:38 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote:

> These are the key questions that initiated the search for additional information during the review.
> 
> Normally you do not need standards unless you are going to get multi-vendor deployments in live networks - hence my questions to the list about who was likely to deploy and in which type of network.

ok, so here is the problem with this position -- many vendors will not make commitments until a draft is an RFC.  And even then, there are cases where vendors will not reveal their plans until some time after the RFC has been published. And to add to the irony, a number of these instances are when the vendor has been working on the draft.

operators are even more secretive about there plans.  I understand it and and sympathize with it, but its a business/marketing position that remains out of scope of the standards work.

If you wish, we can take this off line and I can cite personal experience over the years with Cisco on these matters.

-ken