Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Mon, 01 May 2023 20:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs
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On 1 May 2023, at 12:49, Stephen Farrell wrote:

> On 01/05/2023 20:27, Alexis Rossi wrote:
>> The main down side, if I understand correctly, of using the errata
>> system as the mechanism is that only one version of the RFC will have
>> archived links when something breaks (the html with inline errata).
> I'd argue that the current errata system is fairly useless
> in general, so the biggest downside of building on that is
> perpetuating that system. Better to (at some point, not sure
> when), start over entirely with how to deal with errors and
> infelicities in RFC text. By "start over" I mean start with
> (re-)defining what the system is for. Meanwhile, were it up
> to me, I'd not have anyone do any new work based on the
> current errata system.

Having done extensive work last year with errata on DNS-related RFCs, I fully agree with Stephen's assessment about not basing future extensions on the current errata system.

--Paul Hoffman