Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs
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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs
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Hiya, On 03/05/2023 00:41, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > In case it wasn't obvious, that was an advantage of the proposal to > treat broken URLs as errata - there is already established policy. I'm not sure that there is really a fully established policy. I can imagine many kinds of "broken" where it might not be so easy to figure out if a change is good or bad. As a pretty random example, RFC5165 has a link to [1], and if I go there (with my FF setup), I get an interstitial warning about http:// and, after a click, am then re-directed to [2]. Without reading the RFC and the text at [2], I've no idea if that warrants an erratum, nor what kind. That's why I'd argue we'll be better off if the 1st step here is an analysis of what kinds of "broken" we're seeing, which of those may seem easy to handle, and which not. ISTM that analysis will already be a pile of work, and I'd like to see what that produces before going further. (And I really hope we don't autogenerate thousands of errata based on stuff like this example:-) Cheers, S. PS: The "random" example was just the 1st semi-interesting one I stumbled over based on locally stored RFCs and playing about for 5 minutes. [1] http://urn.opengis.net/ [2] https://defs.opengis.net/vocprez/ > > A sub-question is whether we treat http: URLs as broken if they have > been replaced by https:. There will likely be many of those.
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Martin Thomson
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Alexis Rossi
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Stephen Farrell
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Alexis Rossi
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Martin Thomson
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Martin J. Dürst
- [rfc-i] standards for references/URLs in RFCs ? (… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Jay Daley
- Re: [rfc-i] standards for references/URLs in RFCs… Jay Daley
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs tom petch
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Ted Hardie
- Re: [rfc-i] standards for references/URLs in RFCs… Brian Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Michael Richardson
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Michael Richardson
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Michael Richardson
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Larry Masinter
- Re: [rfc-i] standards for references/URLs in RFCs… Jean Mahoney
- Re: [rfc-i] standards for references/URLs in RFCs… Jean Mahoney
- Re: [rfc-i] standards for references/URLs in RFCs… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Ted Hardie
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Alexis Rossi
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Alexis Rossi
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Alexis Rossi
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Alexis Rossi
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Eliot Lear
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Ted Hardie
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Brian Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Jay Daley
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Ted Hardie
- [rfc-i] IANA, too (Re: archiving outlinks in RFCs) Carsten Bormann
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Jay Daley
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Ted Hardie
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Jay Daley
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Eliot Lear
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rfc-i] IANA, too (Re: archiving outlinks in … tom petch
- Re: [rfc-i] IANA, too (Re: archiving outlinks in … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Jean Mahoney
- Re: [rfc-i] IANA, too (Re: archiving outlinks in … tom petch
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Michael Richardson
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Stephen Farrell
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Alexis Rossi
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Stephen Farrell
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Paul Hoffman
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Ted Hardie
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Christian Huitema
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Alexis Rossi
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Stephen Farrell
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Paul Hoffman
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Michael Richardson
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Stephen Farrell
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Alexis Rossi
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Alexis Rossi
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Alexis Rossi
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Paul Hoffman
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Alexis Rossi
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Alexis Rossi
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Paul Hoffman
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Martin Thomson
- Re: [rfc-i] archiving outlinks in RFCs Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] IANA, too (Re: archiving outlinks in … Alexis Rossi