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Re: [Rfced-future] Model proposal

Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> Wed, 08 July 2020 15:11 UTC

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From: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
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Subject: Re: [Rfced-future] Model proposal
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On Wed, Jul 08, 2020 at 12:44:49AM -0700, S Moonesamy wrote:
> It is better to have a person with the relevant expertise to work on, for
> example, an issue such as the historical five author limit, and devise a
> policy if one is needed.  There may be reasons for the matter to be handled
> by someone else, e.g. each Stream wishes to have its own policy on that.

Disagree.  The variation in policies as to number of authors in
different groups outside the IETF is large enough that expertise in the
matter seems irrelevant.  We have (well, had) to set a policy
appropriate for us, and that requires expertise only in our own
communities.

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