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Re: [Rfced-future] Model proposal

"Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Wed, 08 July 2020 08:21 UTC

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To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Cc: rfced-future@iab.org, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>, Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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On 08/07/2020 07:55, Brian E Carpenter wrote:

> On 08-Jul-20 10:18, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> 
>> Stipulating for the moment that this is true, I don't really see how you get from there to "and this person needs to be in charge of the process". To give an example that I think I also gave on the most recent virtual call, we often have to do things that require a bunch of relevant expertise in the legal world, and that's not us, but address that problem by engaging a lawyer and asking their opinion. Why doesn't that work here?
> 
> It might, if we set it up right. I think this is worth exploring.

I think one difference we have to be aware of is that on the one hand, 
while engineers tend to pose as armchair lawyers, they are pretty aware 
individually and collectively that they have to be careful in this area, 
while on the other hand, for areas such as publishing,..., the bar is 
much lower. Everybody on the IAB and the IESG will have authored an RFC 
or three, and therefore may think they understand the whole business.

Another point: Moving out the IT work looks fine at first sight, but we 
have to be careful because e.g. for the v3 work, that required (and will 
continue to require, for some time) careful coordination between policy 
(such as the number of authors) and implementation.

Regards,   Martin.

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