Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 147 [WGLC Review of the draft]
Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Tue, 04 January 2022 02:36 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 147 [WGLC Review of the draft]
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On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 5:26 PM Brian E Carpenter < brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: > On 04-Jan-22 13:43, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > On one point only: > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 4:39 PM Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im > <mailto:stpeter@stpeter.im>> wrote: > > > > On 1/3/22 5:19 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > ... > > > Issue 147: This requires the RPC to keep certain records, > > > e.g., of dialogue with document authors. Does that formally > > > happen now, or is it just in people's e-mail folders? > > > Do these records need to be public? > > > https://github.com/intarchboard/program-rfced-future/issues/147 < > https://github.com/intarchboard/program-rfced-future/issues/147> > > > <https://github.com/intarchboard/program-rfced-future/issues/147 > <https://github.com/intarchboard/program-rfced-future/issues/147>> > > > > It's not clear to me whether all record-keeping needs to be public. > It > > might be acceptable that records are kept and available on request if > > needed (e.g., in case of an appeal). > > > > > > I think that would be OK. But do they keep records at all? > > > I can't answer that. But I suspect that there might, rarely, be matters > that would be considered private, especially for the Independent Stream > if publishing a proprietary spec. So any policy for making the records > public would need to allow privacy exceptions. > Agreed. I don't actually have strong feelings about any of this and would be fine if we struck this text. I'm just trying to review it from the perspective of "does this say what we want" and "can it be executed"? > However, I just glanced over the messages in my archive about AUTH48, > and I can't see any case that seems private. Even in a couple of cases > where advice was sought from the (former) RSAG, I don't see anything > sensitive. > > One small point: if we add text stating that future records will be > public, or available on request, we'd better state that this is > not automatically retroactive for previous records. > Agreed. -Ekr > > Brian >
- [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Eric Rescorla
- [Rfced-future] Issue 147 [WGLC Review of the draf… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 147 [WGLC Review of the … Eric Rescorla
- [Rfced-future] Issue 145 Re: WGLC Review of the d… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Michael StJohns
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Michael StJohns
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Michael StJohns
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Bob Hinden
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Martin Thomson
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Colin Perkins
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Colin Perkins
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 145 Re: WGLC Review of t… Eric Rescorla
- [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Scott Bradner
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Scott Bradner
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Scott Bradner
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 John C Klensin
- [Rfced-future] RSWG meetings and IETF meetings (R… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Rfced-future] RSWG meetings and IETF meeting… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] RSWG meetings and IETF meeting… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Salz, Rich
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Salz, Rich
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Salz, Rich
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] RSWG meetings and IETF meeting… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 144 Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 145 Re: WGLC Review of t… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 147 [WGLC Review of the … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Michael StJohns
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Rfced-future] RSWG meetings and IETF meeting… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Rfced-future] RSWG meetings and IETF meeting… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Rfced-future] RSWG meetings and IETF meeting… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] RSWG meetings and IETF meeting… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] RSWG meetings and IETF meeting… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 147 [WGLC Review of the … Jean Mahoney
- Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 147 [WGLC Review of the … Peter Saint-Andre