Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 147 [WGLC Review of the draft]

Jean Mahoney <jmahoney@amsl.com> Thu, 13 January 2022 23:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 147 [WGLC Review of the draft]
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(with my RPC hat on)

Hi all,

On 1/6/22 8:10 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> On 1/3/22 7:36 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 5:26 PM Brian E Carpenter 
>> <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com <mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 04-Jan-22 13:43, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>>
>>     On one point only:
>>
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 4:39 PM Peter Saint-Andre
>>     <stpeter@stpeter.im <mailto:stpeter@stpeter.im>
>>     <mailto:stpeter@stpeter.im <mailto:stpeter@stpeter.im>>> wrote:
>>      >
>>      >     On 1/3/22 5:19 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>>
>>     ...
>>      >      > Issue 147: This requires the RPC to keep certain records,
>>      >      > e.g., of dialogue with document authors. Does that 
>> formally
>>      >      > happen now, or is it just in people's e-mail folders?
>>      >      > Do these records need to be public?
>>      >      >
>> https://github.com/intarchboard/program-rfced-future/issues/147
>> <https://github.com/intarchboard/program-rfced-future/issues/147>
>> <https://github.com/intarchboard/program-rfced-future/issues/147
>> <https://github.com/intarchboard/program-rfced-future/issues/147>>
>>      >      >
>> <https://github.com/intarchboard/program-rfced-future/issues/147
>> <https://github.com/intarchboard/program-rfced-future/issues/147>
>> <https://github.com/intarchboard/program-rfced-future/issues/147
>> <https://github.com/intarchboard/program-rfced-future/issues/147>>>
>>      >
>>      >     It's not clear to me whether all record-keeping needs to be
>>     public. It
>>      >     might be acceptable that records are kept and available on
>>     request if
>>      >     needed (e.g., in case of an appeal).
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > I think that would be OK. But do they keep records at all?

[JM] Yes. Per their contract, the RPC keeps records of edits and author 
interactions. These records are not public.

Best regards,

Jean


>>
>>
>>     I can't answer that. But I suspect that there might, rarely, be 
>> matters
>>     that would be considered private, especially for the Independent 
>> Stream
>>     if publishing a proprietary spec. So any policy for making the 
>> records
>>     public would need to allow privacy exceptions.
>>
>>
>> Agreed. I don't actually have strong feelings about any of this and 
>> would
>> be fine if we struck this text. I'm just trying to review it from the 
>> perspective
>> of "does this say what we want" and "can it be executed"?
>
> Before we settle this issue, I'd like to hear from Jay (who is on 
> vacation) or RPC folks.
>
> Peter
>